No V8 JT

[Geoarch]

Per head of JEEP

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/jeep-gladiator-4xe-plug-in-hybrid-coming-v8-ruled-out-report

That timing will be about right for me. We have 6.24 kW rooftop solar so around town it will essentially be free.

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[MRPRmojave]

Someone brought up a good point about a weather crisis. We had a hurricane come through a couple of years ago and we did not have power in our neighborhood for 15 days. Based on that experience I will hold off as long as I can before I buy a pure EV truck. I stocked up on fuel in 5 gallon cans, and helped my neighbors drag trees with my truck and for chainsaws ect... Right now its hard to fill up cans with electricity ?

 

[Geoarch]

The pro EV seem to be talking in bone stock conditions, I know on out JLURD we got 29mpg out of the box, down to about 20mpg with 37's... so, I have to wonder an 4xe with a 20 mile range on battery will be worth much if it drops a 3rd of that range on tires....

Whats left when the charge runs out? We can both gas up and keep going, but what oower is a tually left in the 4xe with no charge?
Seems like a great mall crawler

It’s a hybrid not EV.

 

[Teqsand]

It’s a hybrid not EV.

I'm sorry, I forgot the "PH", does that invalidate the post?

 

[bleda2002]

I'm sorry, I forgot the "PH", does that invalidate the post?

It does actually. The 4xe is just like a regular wrangler, it burns gas when it needs to with a 2.0 that is easily the match of the 3.6 in terms of power and efficiency and an electric power adder that makes it the 2nd most power wrangler or gladiator behind the 392.

The P means that if you want to plug it in, and start with a full battery, you can. You can then decide based on your drive whether you want to run in hybrid mode ( trips greater than ~25 miles), or all electric (trips shorter than ~25 miles).

The HEV portion of that means that the 4xe has 375hp and 470lbft of torque (thats 115hp and 28lbft of torque more than the diesel FYI). That extra power NEVER disappears because the 4xe reserves about 15-20% of the battery so that it never actually goes flat and will charge the battery off your brakes or your engine to maintain that 15-20%.

HEV =/= EV, a prius is not a tesla.

 

[Teqsand]

It does actually. The 4xe is just like a regular wrangler, it burns gas when it needs to with a 2.0 that is easily the match of the 3.6 in terms of power and efficiency and an electric supercharger that makes it the 2nd most power wrangler or gladiator behind the 392.

The P means that if you want to plug it in, and start with a full battery, you can. You can then decide based on your drive whether you want to run in hybrid mode ( trips greater than ~25 miles), or all electric (trips shorter than ~25 miles).

The HEV portion of that means that the 4xe has 375hp and 470lbft of torque (thats 115hp and 28lbft of torque more than the diesel FYI). That extra power NEVER disappears because the 4xe reserves about 15-20% of the battery so that it never actually goes flat and will charge the battery off your brakes or your engine to maintain that 15-20%.

HEV =/= EV, a prius is not a tesla.

Actually read the rest of my post... and we are discussing the 4xe here, not feeling like the distinction was lost on anyone, so the confusion should have been limited to those looking for it...

 

[bleda2002]

Actually read the rest of my post... and we are discussing the 4xe here, not feeling like the distinction was lost on anyone, so the confusion should have been limited to those looking for it...

Read my post, you asked whats left when the charge runs out, I answered that. The charge NEVER runs out. It ALWAYS has 375 hp and 470lbft of torque because its a hybrid which means it can charge itself off the brakes and engine.

You can literally never plug in the 4xe for its entire life, and you will just have a prius style wrangler that has 375 hp and 470lb ft of torque at all times.

 

[Akgladiator]

It does actually. The 4xe is just like a regular wrangler, it burns gas when it needs to with a 2.0 that is easily the match of the 3.6 in terms of power and efficiency and an electric power adder that makes it the 2nd most power wrangler or gladiator behind the 392.

The P means that if you want to plug it in, and start with a full battery, you can. You can then decide based on your drive whether you want to run in hybrid mode ( trips greater than ~25 miles), or all electric (trips shorter than ~25 miles).

The HEV portion of that means that the 4xe has 375hp and 470lbft of torque (thats 115hp and 28lbft of torque more than the diesel FYI). That extra power NEVER disappears because the 4xe reserves about 15-20% of the battery so that it never actually goes flat and will charge the battery off your brakes or your engine to maintain that 15-20%.

HEV =/= EV, a prius is not a tesla.

Anything to do with battery and electric motor will only produce more complicated engineering issues.

Jeep is supposed to be off road icon, with all these mumbo jumbo ev/ hybrid render its usefulness when issues rear it's heads.

As if normal jeep does not have enough issues to deal with already!

Simplicity is the key longevity!

5.7 hemi without etorque will probably outlast any force induction, ev/ hybrid in long run! But again jeep would not want u to have something that reliable which you will keep for a long time, jeep will go broke!

 

[Teqsand]

Read my post, you asked whats left when the charge runs out, I answered that. The charge NEVER runs out. It ALWAYS has 375 hp and 470lbft of torque because its a hybrid which means it can charge itself off the brakes and engine.

You can literally never plug in the 4xe for its entire life, and you will just have a prius style wrangler that has 375 hp and 470lb ft of torque at all times.

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There comes a point the battery power cannot provide the requested power and the ICE runs,
So you run that batt down to (hidden 15% as you said) it needs the ICE to go, you set out on a long East Texas highway drive, you're getting 2.0 level MPG for the next 400 miles because it cannot regen enough....

Now we ask, what if the owner lives in an apt without the ability to plug in, without plugging in, no way you're going to get the advertised MPG....

 

[bleda2002]

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There comes a point the battery power cannot provide the requested power and the ICE runs,
So you run that batt down to (hidden 15% as you said) it needs the ICE to go, you set out on a long East Texas highway drive, you're getting 2.0 level MPG for the next 400 miles because it cannot regen enough....

Now we ask, what if the owner lives in an apt without the ability to plug in, without plugging in, no way you're going to get the advertised MPG....

Thats true of all hybrids, highway miles are the worst miles for a hybrid, be it a prius or a 4xe. The advertised 4xe hybrid only mpg is 20mpg combined, its on the window sticker for all to see, you will end up getting the advertised mpg which is better than the 2.0 in the city and worse on the highway. The thing to also remember though is that you still have 375hp and 470lbft of torque on that highway drive, and you gave up about 1-2 mpg compared to a 2.0 alone.

 

[Teqsand]

Thats true of all hybrids, highway miles are the worst miles for a hybrid, be it a prius or a 4xe. The advertised 4xe hybrid only mpg is 20mpg combined, its on the window sticker for all to see, you will end up getting the advertised mpg which is better than the 2.0 in the city and worse on the highway. The thing to also remember though is that you still have 375hp and 470lbft of torque on that highway drive, and you gave up about 1-2 mpg compared to a 2.0 alone.

Like any vehicle, you only have that high HP/TQ if you stomp down, so maybe passing someone the 4xe would have an advantage over the 2.0 alone.... it doesn't take a lot of HP to keep you rolling

 

[AmosMoses]

I hate to break it to you, but what you see in this thread is an extremely tiny miniscule portion of Jeep's customer base. This thread means absolutely nothing to them. It's literally just a spot for a few people to come yell at technology.

Iam a gen Xer and I think you are out of touch with the majority of jeep wrangler owners. I look forward to EV when it matures a little bit.

 

[sharpsicle]

Iam a gen Xer and I think you are out of touch with the majority of jeep wrangler owners. I look forward to EV when it matures a little bit.

I'm out of touch that Jeep owners are just looking for threads like this to complain in?

Because if you're trying to say I'm saying anything other than that, I'm not. I haven't even stated my views on EV, and for good reason. I'm not one of the people looking to have an argument about it. You have no idea what my views are on the subject.

I'm simply showing how a thread about the V8 being confirmed not to be in the trucks (no surprise on that BTW) devolved into an EV argument. Just like every other thread that even gets close to talking about engines. Then everyone gets delusions that "Jeep will hear us! All dozen of us!" It's sad.

 

[SPED1]

So I learned something today! I thought and could not wrap my head around was if the plug in only portion would do the first 30-35 miles and then it was gas only until you plugged it in again. I thought it would not recharge itself on the road. I like the idea more now! We had a battery removed from a totaled Fusion that we sold for scrap as we have NEVER had any battery issues with them at all! All total we had about a hundred that were spread amongst the taxi, medical , and livery fleets. 2010-2015 fusions [2 generations worth] We had transmission problems with the 2013-2015 generation cars due to Ford engineering a bearing that would eat through the case after 100/120k miles

 

[Teqsand]

So I learned something today! I thought and could not wrap my head around was if the plug in only portion would do the first 30-35 miles and then it was gas only until you plugged it in again. I thought it would not recharge itself on the road. I like the idea more now!

Pretty sure that works to some extent in town, but as was mentioned earlier, it requires use of the brake system, long highway runs don't do it

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