Mojave is fantastic offroad

[legacy_etu]

yeah, I hit 60mph on the beach, things floats on sand, unreal

Man, I wish. We have a speed limit of 20 on our beaches.

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[Rahkmalla]

Driving at 40 to 50 miles an hour through some good beat up dirt roads through the woods is a sublime experience.

I've never had an opportunity to put a rubicon through its paces offroad, but i did used to own a willys. the mojave just handles beat up dirt at speed sooooo much better than my willys, and there is nothing in the rubicon package that leads me to believe it would do the same.

Not a knock on the rubicon, just a statement that things that are built for a purpose tend to excel in their stated purpose. Mojave handles speed better. Rubicon handles crawling better.

 

[Minty JL]

Mojave is the bestest end of story

 

[gouacats]

Love mine...it's a blast at speed and does well on difficult stuff as well!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I've never had an opportunity to put a rubicon through its paces offroad, but i did used to own a willys. the mojave just handles beat up dirt at speed sooooo much better than my willys, and there is nothing in the rubicon package that leads me to believe it would do the same.

Not a knock on the rubicon, just a statement that things that are built for a purpose tend to excel in their stated purpose. Mojave handles speed better. Rubicon handles crawling better.

Purpose-designed vehicles. Rubicon can cross pretty much anything, Mojave can do things fast.
It's like my 2 cars - one will go through almost anything (except roughest of Jeep trails) while the other snags on speed bumps - but dang, it goes fast in between.


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Oddly this shows a Rubicon but is talking something different.........

 

[RacerAV]

I just installed a set of Apex Autolynx on my Mojave and will be giving them their inaugural run up in the Black Hills of South Dakota on Friday. Installation was straightforward and I’ve had zero issues with daily driving. They unlock super easy and give an enormous amount of flex when I dropped my suspension. I used the 8.5 version on my truck, which also has AEV’s Mojave 2” lift. I highly recommend them.

I love the idea of those things but they are just so massive... and not cheap. I'm torn between them and just new sways front and rear (Antirock), never have to disconnect, but almost the same travel...

 

[RacerAV]

Wanted to start a good-news thread here, by saying that I’ve had my Mojave on some mild/moderate forestry trails … and I have to say that I am beyond impressed. This thing is fantastic. Nothing that I’ve done is as wild and crazy as some of the U-tuberz, but every time that I’ve been somewhere that seemed sketch, it just simply amazed me. I keep expecting something to cause some tire slippage or something, and you really have to be trying. This last weekend we climbed a non-maintained hill at a 14 degree pitch, with 9 degree roll, and it seemed effortless in 4lo; no spin, no clawing, no lockers needed. We barely detected an issue in some soft creek bed in 2hi. When in 4lo, off-road+ is usually only needed on ledges and I prefer to keep it off. In 4hi, off-road+ should just be renamed to be the “fun button”. Has Anyone else just been flat out amazed with the off-road prowess of their gladi?

Is this your first Jeep? I had the same feelings when I had my new 14 JKUR... then again with the 17 JKUR Recon, lol... and NOW with my 23 JT Mojave... wow... I'm in love again!

 

[Rahkmalla]

I love the idea of those things but they are just so massive... and not cheap. I'm torn between them and just new sways front and rear (Antirock), never have to disconnect, but almost the same travel...

An anti rock is a compromised solution. Makes your on road manners less mannerly in corners. I went apex and would never go back.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I love the idea of those things but they are just so massive... and not cheap. I'm torn between them and just new sways front and rear (Antirock), never have to disconnect, but almost the same travel...

For the fronts it's not so much the travel but the allowing one wheel to drop while the other wheel has no up-pull on it through the sway bar - unless the Antirock is a really super-weak sway bar, as long as it's connect at both end and continuous, if the left wheel needs to drop the right wheel will be pulling up on it.
A sway bar that's good for controlling understeer, oversteer, front and rear traction distribution can't allow as much flex as no sway bar would (or one that is disconnected)
Gotta be a big compromise.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

An anti rock is a compromised solution. Mkes your on road manners less mannerly in corners. I went apex and would never go back.

It has to be very weak to be of any help on trails, and that means bad for the highway or tight curves like highway interchanges and ramps.
More front chassis roll, reduced rear traction and increase oversteer

 

[Lunentucker]

I find the rear shocks are not properly setup from the factory, I get way more bounce than my ZR2 gave. I've found that a bit of weight, like up to 200lbs at the front of the bed area improves things at speed.

This is 100% accurate.
If I'm hauling 200-300 pounds it's very noticeably smoother. Don't get me wrong, zero load is still great, but a bit of weight makes it perfect.

 

[RacerAV]

For the fronts it's not so much the travel but the allowing one wheel to drop while the other wheel has no up-pull on it through the sway bar - unless the Antirock is a really super-weak sway bar, as long as it's connect at both end and continuous, if the left wheel needs to drop the right wheel will be pulling up on it.
A sway bar that's good for controlling understeer, oversteer, front and rear traction distribution can't allow as much flex as no sway bar would (or one that is disconnected)
Gotta be a big compromise.

Yeah that's what I mean, clean smooth unfiltered travel, lol. The Antirocks are known for maintaining a good anti sway on rood, but then allowing almost full droop/ up travel without disconnecting anything! I think Gnomes must make them in a magical factory lol...

For the record, I would always love more travel! BUT I won't be swapping my shocks or arms anytime soon... don't want to mess with this ride quality...

 

[Jefe1018]

I've got a Rubicon, I know I felt the same way after the first time I wheeled mine. Family has had an XJ for years and I've only ever really driven it as an "ah crap, I need a ride because mine [insert excuse here]" type occasion and on the way to and from hunting trips, but never really behind the wheel when off roading. I've had 4x4's before, an Xterra which was awesome and a Commander which was like the minivan of Jeeps. The JT is a different animal all together, over rocks, up anything, down anything, even going fast it is fun and feels totally in control. I would imagine the Mojave is just about the same.

 

[Volt0]

Is this your first Jeep? I had the same feelings when I had my new 14 JKUR... then again with the 17 JKUR Recon, lol... and NOW with my 23 JT Mojave... wow... I'm in love again!

For me personally, yes. Growing up I recall going through some crazy places in an old square body Chevy, so I feel like I have an idea of the capabilities already, and it’s still surpassing my perceptions.

 

[AmishMike]

@Volt0 Yes, these truck are more capable than most drivers. I encourage you to not use Off Road + so that you can get used to the trucks/your limitations. I typically do not use it, I prefer to learn myself.
Been 32° decline and 29° sideways, not at the same time. I scraped my rear fender on a tree root.......
The biggest advantage that the Rubi has over your Mojave is the lower transfer case for crawling, but it will not hit the dunes like you can!
Enjoy and be safe!

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