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[ShadowsPapa]

There isn’t a single system that will stop everyone. Everything can be reversed and removed. It’s how difficult you make it, and how often you park in areas with high theft. I’m happy to discuss my ideas, but not as much in a public thread.

Yeah, I have my reasons for never using that company - there's a list. When I did a very deep dive, it's not hard to rip apart their claims.
I can do better with a fraction of the cost.
I won't get into a "Ravelco is GREAT, never been bypassed" vs. "yeah, they have" or other debates in public, it would be pretty lengthy seeing what I've seen with hours of research into them and believers will believe. their

I agree a big part of it is the installation methods - get some idiot at an audio or alarm store to install it and you can figure it WILL get bypassed, and paying their installers hundreds isn't on the table, either when you see "it took their installers 8 hours"- geesh, for that sort of money I could spend 2 days and do it myself to MY high level of expectations.

I won't deal with a liar and abusive old fart who cusses out people and hangs up on them (multiple reports)

Like you, there are reasons I won't take my thoughts into the public realm - obviously, if they knew my ideas, lurkers could eventually figure out even my methods (although it would take them a lot longer than an hour or two like some have said the Ravelco can be figured out in)

Ravelco "controls the narrative" - they go after anyone who claims it can be defeated or who says they have defeated it, calling the liars, demanding posts or articles be removed and so on. the number of domains they own and control, the number of FB pages tells you they are trying to keep tight control over things - anyone countering their claims of 5 million sold, never a single theft is smacked down. They have quite a few domains for a company like that.

So it's not just the technical side or the outrageous price behind my saying I will never buy one, but their tactics as well.
Sometime you have little choice but to deal with companies like that - but when there's a choice, I walk the other way.
Won't go further in public.

(and the messages out there where someone says they found snippings from wiring harnesses where their vehicle had been sitting - never a stolen vehicle out of 5 million? Liars)

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[RockisJT]

Still raining. Maybe later today or tomorrow I can get you some better pictures. Thanks again to all of you! I do love it!!!

 

[Idlethunder]

Still raining. Maybe later today or tomorrow I can get you some better pictures. Thanks again to all of you! I do love it!!!

It is very nice and I'm glad the situation turned out so well! The way they documented it, your case looked bulletproof, but you never know until the papers are signed.

What still bothers me is that if they had written your ticket as Install Receiver instead of Install Max Tow Package, they could have gotten away with it. You were paying attention to it which is great but there’s no telling how many times dealers get away with such things.

 

[RockisJT]

Well, no, the only reason they didn't get away with it is because I mentioned the mods in my first post. That was by chance. I am not certain I would have looked at it with the intensity I did if this forum hadn't brought it to my attention.

YOU ALL are who saved this from being an absolute cluster! My brother also thanks you by the way

 

[RockisJT]

 

[RockisJT]

 

[Idlethunder]

Very nice and it even looks like you got a good set of floor mats. For the most part I'd say drive for a week or two before buying anything extra just to see what you feel is lacking. The one exception to that is if you drive many gravel roads, get a set of mud flaps. Within the first week my rear fenders were dinged up and a couple of the door hinges had paint chips.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Outstanding. Remember. It’s a car until it’s first scratch. Then it’s a Jeep.

 

[RockisJT]

Very nice and it even looks like you got a good set of floor mats. For the most part I'd say drive for a week or two before buying anything extra just to see what you feel is lacking. The one exception to that is if you drive many gravel roads, get a set of mud flaps. Within the first week my rear fenders were dinged up and a couple of the door hinges had paint chips.

Yes gravel roads are every day. and dirt roads every couple of weeks.

I know I need seat covers... I have a horse lol... what is the best kind for heated seats? Does it matter?

Other than that, I have a lot to learn... when/where/will I ever use the off road/sway bar option on the center console- when towing or just over rocks? The red too? I don't think I can go on the Rubicon without a lift and bigger tires, but I think I could find somewhere else to learn! Since I have the capability I may as well learn how to use it Any ideas on where to go for that are appreciated

 

[WILDHOBO]

Yes gravel roads are every day. and dirt roads every couple of weeks.

I know I need seat covers... I have a horse lol... what is the best kind for heated seats? Does it matter?

Other than that, I have a lot to learn... when/where/will I ever use the off road/sway bar option on the center console- when towing or just over rocks? The red too? I don't think I can go on the Rubicon without a lift and bigger tires, but I think I could find somewhere else to learn! Since I have the capability I may as well learn how to use it Any ideas on where to go for that are appreciated

Lockers are for situations where one wheel spins without traction, and without lockers the other one gives up. Engage the locker and it requires both wheels to rotate together. Swaybar disconnect is only for offroad as well. It allows for more articulation in the front to maintain traction by keeping tires on the ground. It only stays disconnected below 18mph, in 4hi auto, 4hi, or 4low on the transfer case. It makes it Ben bumpy roads way more comfy as well.

 

[RockisJT]

Lockers are for situations where one wheel spins without traction, and without lockers the other one gives up. Engage the locker and it requires both wheels to rotate together. Swaybar disconnect is only for offroad as well. It allows for more articulation in the front to maintain traction by keeping tires on the ground. It only stays disconnected below 18mph, in 4hi auto, 4hi, or 4low on the transfer case. It makes it Ben bumpy roads way more comfy as well.

Oh awesome, thank you!

 

[WILDHOBO]

Oh awesome, thank you!

Any time. Airing down is huge as well, both for comfort and traction. With factory tires you’ll see a huge difference in traction and comfort by airing down to 18-20psi. So you’ll n ed at least a small air pump to get you back to your Oem 37psi spec before you drive home. Tires that low on roads will get destroyed. But they’re perfectly fine driving slowly offroad at those pressures. With larger tires, many will air down to 10-15psi on a very regular basis. I usually wheel at 14-15psi, but lower in low traction situations.

 

[RockisJT]

Any time. Airing down is huge as well, both for comfort and traction. With factory tires you’ll see a huge difference in traction and comfort by airing down to 18-20psi. So you’ll n ed at least a small air pump to get you back to your Oem 37psi spec before you drive home. Tires that low on roads will get destroyed. But they’re perfectly fine driving slowly offroad at those pressures. With larger tires, many will air down to 10-15psi on a very regular basis. I usually wheel at 14-15psi, but lower in low traction situations.

Ok on my list with the mud flaps and seat covers

 

[WILDHOBO]

Ok on my list with the mud flaps and seat covers

I can’t say enough about the Bartact tactical seat covers. I have rubicon leather just like yours. My kids were going to kill my jeep. I removed them recently for a major detail. After 2.5 years of car seats and boosters smashing the seats, they looked brand new underneath.

 

[RockisJT]

I can’t say enough about the Bartact tactical seat covers. I have rubicon leather just like yours. My kids were going to kill my jeep. I removed them recently for a major detail. After 2.5 years of car seats and boosters smashing the seats, they looked brand new underneath.

Unfortunately those are tooooo pricey for me!

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