I hope this wasn't anyone here.........

[ShadowsPapa]

Seriously - destruction of historical structure.
They didn't hear of anchoring down low?

Maybe a fine to help pay for the damages or costs involved when people break things.

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[intentsrig]

The video showed a Toyota tundra

 

[Scott L]

Yeah it was a closed area. Dumbass had it on video and posted it. According to NPS they‘ve been caught.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The video showed a Toyota tundra

Article I looked at didn't include video.
They did say they know who it was.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah it was a closed area. Dumbass had it on video and posted it. According to NPS they‘ve been caught.

Pretty proud of themselves - for a while, anyway, posting a video. Geesh.

 

[Scott L]

Pretty proud of themselves - for a while, anyway, posting a video. Geesh.

Yeah special kind of stupid right there. In so many ways.

 

[WestwallNF104A]

Seriously - destruction of historical structure.
They didn't hear of anchoring down low?

Maybe a fine to help pay for the damages or costs involved when people break things.

What a jackass!

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

I read about that a few days ago.
https://nypost.com/2024/05/15/us-news/historic-death-valley-tower-toppled-by-reckless-driver/

There was a follow-up about it yesterday, I think, where the person responsible contacted the NPS and claimed responsibility. Regardless as to who it is, one part of me wants them banned for life from being able to enter any national park that allows vehicles on trails. The other part wants their punishment to be where they are required to help with the restoration of the tram (if the park service decides to do that) from start to finish AND be the "posterchild" for educating others on reasons for staying on the approved trails (public announcements, must volunteer at that park entrance to emphasize the approved trails, etc).

Is it any wonder why public off road trails are being closed? It's people like that causing it.

 

[BourbonRunner]

Just like anything else, there's always assholes out there that give the rest of us a bad name. Name the group, they're always present and as always they are the lowest common denominator that ruins it for all of us.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[AustinKalb]

I read about that a few days ago.
https://nypost.com/2024/05/15/us-news/historic-death-valley-tower-toppled-by-reckless-driver/

There was a follow-up about it yesterday, I think, where the person responsible contacted the NPS and claimed responsibility. Regardless as to who it is, one part of me wants them banned for life from being able to enter any national park that allows vehicles on trails. The other part wants their punishment to be where they are required to help with the restoration of the tram (if the park service decides to do that) from start to finish AND be the "posterchild" for educating others on reasons for staying on the approved trails (public announcements, must volunteer at that park entrance to emphasize the approved trails, etc).

Is it any wonder why public off road trails are being closed? It's people like that causing it.

While in Moab for the Easter Jeep safari, we camped at Sand Flats. There were no available campsites when I went to sleep. I guess a group moved in in the middle of the night and camped off the loop Road on in some random area. They did wake some people up, but not me. It may be really mad.

When I left the sand flats area, I found a Ranger and let them know this happened. Apparently. while I was gone the Ranger showed up at that camp, then called the sheriff.

When the sheriff showed up the group got a major talking to, and had to restore the area by hand, including picking up all their trash and raking the area to bring it back to as natural as possible. About a hour and a half. No fine.

I think the perpetrators of the Death Valley incident should be required to help with the restoration and hopefully will have learned a lesson.

 

[BourbonRunner]

I think the perpetrators of the Death Valley incident should be required to help with the restoration and hopefully will have learned a lesson.

What they did wasn't necessarily malicious.

They got stuck. It happens.

Make the stupid hurt a little financially and send them on their way the wiser-- Maybe they'll learn a bit about properly off roading in the process. Guarantee they'll never do it again.

 

[Florida Mojave]

It's idiots like this that get areas and roads shut down because of their stupidity.....
If you don't have the proper equipment to off road, go to the mall.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Yeup, bunch of middle age dudes decide to make there midlife crisis in Overlanding. Goes and buys an 80k truck and decks it out in 20k worth of offroad shit. Proceeds to trespass and desecrate miles of preserved parks, trails, historical areas and private property. Post about it on Insta for clout and then when they have their first catastrophic failure they insurance total the thing out and go buy a boat or corvette as they should've done to begin with. Instead they they made a bad name for all careful and mindful off-roaders out there, inflated our aftermarket costs, caused our trails and parks to get shut down for preservation and proved that social media does make it all worse. I'd rather these buffoons stick to mall crawling. It pisses me off to go into a national park to find some wannabe influencer twat in 65k stock TRD PRO whatever "bushwacking" off the trail for a stupid thumbnail picture for his "OMG I GOT STOCK IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWWHERE! I ALMOST DIED" YT video. Makes every time that i do a recovery more tempting to absolutely trash their vehicle dragging it back to the trail head so they don't have any means to do it again. Also the amount of Offroad parks having to add an insane amount of restrictions or closing down cus of these people is also annoying AF. Its bad enough places are closing down tracks and making track days almost completely inaccessible to the avg enthusiast.

 

[Scott L]

What they did wasn't necessarily malicious.

They got stuck. It happens.

Make the stupid hurt a little financially and send them on their way the wiser-- Maybe they'll learn a bit about properly off roading in the process. Guarantee they'll never do it again.

Yes they got stuck and yes it does happen but they were in an unauthorized area to begin with. Hopefully they do learn a lesson but I’m doubtful! Seems the look at me attitude brings these people out in droves. Guy will probably post on his insta face whatever chat about his run in with the law.

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