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I can, that what the 2 ton hay hauling and dump truck had.

I can top that, learned at 12 years old to drive a ford f100 with a 3 on the tree. For you youngsters, the shifter was on the column and only had 3 forward gears and one reverse. If you could drive one of those, you could drive anything. Sure glad my father made me learn to drive on it.

I did this last month, the dealer had a little over 5k in dealer discounts, then there was $3k in rebates from Jeep and 1.9 percent interest. I was not going to buy new, but when I figured the 1.9 vs the 9 percent for a used one, was about 6k difference. So I ended up giving $37,237 for a bone...