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How can we get the rubicon detail there on the hood? What axles did they put on this?

That's because they haven't tried to know.

Well I guess there's nothing to worry about because if you're planning on doing serious wheeling as an educated human you will have larger tires and thus a beefy drive shaft. EDIT: But don't listen to me because I'm an undereducated human.

Is it a concern if you have a chromoly drive shaft?

Britney from Lite Brite would never have let this happen.

If you're serious then I would start to get some sort of googleDoc/slide going for everyone. I'm in San Diego and if you're interested in Hiking then I'll tell you everyone loves Potatoe Chip Rock (Ramona). If you're interested in wheeling you might have to consult some facebook groups for...

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I think it's safe to hope for it. The truck market in america has a presence that isn't going anywhere. And, Jeep would be the ones to make that leap if anyone, historically speaking, and this Gladiator is finally more proof of that. But I don't think it would be a for a long time. The boxes...

With those stats it would bring me closer to being happy with a Power Wagon purchase, however, I got big plans for my Gladiator, plans I wouldn't have with a Power Wagon. When the time comes for a full sized truck in 20 years, I hope Jeep will have one available.

Show me how you get $15,000 off in discounts.

Dude you're just not getting it. You should go back and read everything I said if you're going to argue with me. I am not going to spec a power wagon to be similar to a gladiator and then still not have my gladiator, nor the power wagon that I would want. I would be left with a waste because my...

And your spreadsheet means nothing to me to be honest. I have had that info months ago.

No I said 20k more, but I dropped off 5k to bring it 15 as an acknowledgement of the discounts for the Power Wagon. It's still more because for the third time I'm not comparing base spec apples to base oranges, I'm comparing what I would actually spec, and so what I would spec in a Power Wagon...

I don't how many times I can rephrase it, the Power Wagon base sure you're right, but no one is buying base. At least I am not. And once I spec a Power Wagon to what would please me, it's at least 15k more. Rightly so, there's reasons for that. It's just not the reasons for me. We're buying...

Mojito?

After going through the build tool, for me, (or in other words, what would make me happy, bc spending <$ for a disappointment wouldn't make me happy and be an utter fucking waste, because that's the type of person I am) is going be around 70k MSRP. vs 50k at 7% below invoice.

Getting what I would want in a power wagon vs what I want in a Jeep is going to be $20,000 more expensive after going through the price tool, and then I still lose out on some things that the Gladiator offers, and vis a versa. The power wagon is just not the right fit. I get more bang for my...

This is definitely post of the week.