Well after creeping here and mentally struggling to make up my mind, I did it.
mopar 2 inch lift
20 inch Fuel covert -18 offset
37 x12.5 nitto ridge grapplers
this guy has -44 offset on a 2 inch Mopar lift and he gets down ! No mall crawler,
check his videos , his Jeep seems highly capable on rocks or whatever else he puts it through