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I also noticed you need to take 2200 worth of stupid dealer money makers on top of the markup.

Cloth seats and a V6. Must have added a few options. Surely not loaded. Surely not cheap. It's an off road vehicle, not a Cadillac.

I figured I was going to be OUT after pricing out a Sahara JL that was bare bones and 50k. Just a question. What lifestyle ALLOWS one to pay 50-60k for a truck to take off road and F+$k it all up? And how many hard core off roaders are really out there that would do that enough to justify...

And if it does cost anywhere near a Tacoma that has a reputation for reliability, this will be a total flop and just canabalize sales of Wranglers while remaining with an equal market share overall. 50 freaking grand, are you serious? No thanks. I don’t care how good it is. They better hit a...

Interesting. I have to admit I have not done a ton of research into engine choices. But I would not be happy with the V6 so by default I would be forced to the diesel. I will assume the 4T is not up to the task in the towing dept.?

I plan to keep it simple. Rims and 35’s. No lift, 35’s fit. Stick with factory suspension. I hope the tailgate locks. Rollback tonneau. See if they come with spray in bed liner as an option or standard. If not LineX. May do a bed carpet to keep thing from sliding around. That’s it for...