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I'm hugely disappointed, the 4xe is the best drivetrain and I really wanted a gladiator version so I could tow my airstream and have the power box capability onboard. Would have been the ideal camping combination. I towed a smaller 5000lbs camper with my 4xe and it was excellent, hemi torque...

That's pretty much the exact same depreciation as a non 4xe GC....

Dealer sent me their usual 'do you want to trade yours ('24 4xe Rubicon x) in for a new one' email and I replied that sure, I'd trade it in for a 4xe gladiator. They replied that orders would open in summer or fall and they'd let me know when they could order one. So we'll see....

What year 4xe did you drive? I have a '24 and can't imagine not being impressed with the performance if you're comparing to any other wrangler/gladiator than the 392. It's also pretty refined except for the awful engine note, which is the same for any 2.0t wrangler, but you get the benefit of...

It is, I went over the rating knowing the axles, hitch etc were rated for 5k but cooling was the limitation.

My experience has been the opposite and I've both towed and off roaded my '24 4xe heavily. I towed 5000lbs over a thousand miles in the middle of July during last summers heat wave. It did great but you could not pin it to the floor and expect it to stay cool, unlike the v6. The electric...

It's just really short sighted of them. Wrangler has 4 powertrain options, Gladiator has one. The color choices suck. They're over priced. Maybe address 2 of those 3 and you won't have sales tank. Maybe address all 3 and they'll actually go up....But this has been the general downfall of...

I think you misread my post, that was precisely my point, the JT doesn't overheat while the JL with 4xe overheats at 5klbs (if you don't pay attention) and I see no way they'll get it over 6k in the JT. Which defeats the purpose of putting it in the JT. I'm agreeing with you. That said, the...

It's the cooling that's the problem, that's why the '24 JL 4xe Rubicon, despite having the bigger grill and full float d44, can only tow 3500lbs. I know the JT has the chassis for towing but I don't know how they take a power train that overheats with 5000lbs and cool it enough, with the same...

I'm wondering if we're going to get a hybridized pentastar instead. I'd be fine with that tbh.

If they can get the cooling sorted. I'm not sure how they do that, they've already opened up the grill, the '24 JL and JT have the same grill unlike prior to '24, which is part of the reason the regular JL can tow 5000lbs now.

What? Of course the engine is running, but it gets hot. I didn't get reduced battery power but had to slow to keep the (gas) engine under 240. The '24 Rubicon 4xe has the full float rear axle. https://s3.amazonaws.com/chryslermedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2024_JP_Wrangler_4xe_SP.pdf...

I have a Rubicon so it has the 4.10s and full float rear.

The Rubicons all get the full float axles. The 4xe and 392 don't have enough cooling to pull 5000lbs. Everything else is the same, but the 392 gets a small lift, 35's and 4.56 gears. Cooling is also the limitation with the gladiator.

Having a Wrangler 4xe, everything is the same as the 5000lbs rated Wrangler versions but the limitation is cooling, so I don't really see how they can get the gladiator to 6000lbs plus towing given that limitation. I hope they do, I'll buy one I've towed 5000lbs with my 4xe and had to slow...

Thanks dude, I've been waiting almost 4 (powerless) years for some guidance.

The ratings are the 'should' limits. They're fully capable of more in the right conditions, and those 'should' limits have a safety factor. That's why they're published. What the actual limits are, nobody, except the engineers, know, and will depend on conditions. You can probably tow 2-3x...

I've been running these for about 4 months in the rear and it's a huge difference. Much better in all conditions, no more rear end bobbing up and down over bumps, much less bobbing when towing, and no discernable downsides. Highly recommend if you can get them for a decent price.

Totally depends on the trailer. I've towed 5 trailers in the 5000lb plus range, the lightest (wilderness x-lite travel trailer) was the worst to tow because it was shorter and had a higher center of gravity than the others. Enclosed car trailer was the toughest on the jeep because of the...

It reduces weight on the truck, which is what the spec is meant for. As is obvious, jeep is just quoting 10% of the max trailer weight for tongue weight and do not quote a WD hitch limit. A properly set up equilized hitch will put 1/3 of the tongue weight on the trailer axles and front and...