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I never get tired of watching this!

That makes sense, thanks.

This whole thing has got me really confused. The OP has a JT Gladiator and I think it has a water fording limit of 30 inches max which would be the same I guess for liquid mud? I have a 2018 JL Sahara stock suspension and I think I'm right in saying that the JT Gladiator is probably higher...

Like I said pretty much in the tank hence the heavy discounting along with factory incentives.

They aren’t, that’s the point, the Gladiator sales are officially in the tank!

Yep, definitely something to be said for the 8000 miles of enjoyment!

Yeah agreed, this particular dealer not so good but the way these things are stacking up on the lots it won’t be hard to get fully loaded Rubicon for $10,000 to $12,000 below msrp. It truly is a buyers market now, I feel sorry for all the guys jumping in line 9 short months ago willing to pay...

My bad, may have to wait a little longer, the Rubicons are really piling up on the lot here in Virginia Beach!

This is actually pretty good news to me, I have been on the fence about one but may have to reconsider. Just 9 short months ago guys were paying full sticker, $62,000, for the Rubicon Launch Edition. Now with the FCA incentives and steep dealer discounts I can pick one up for $48,000 - $50,000...

Wow, just wow, the JT hasn’t even been on the market for a year and FCA is already rebating it $2000, sounds like they may be a little worried!

Thanks I'm in Va. Beach but think I'm going with something different. Your price is extremely fair though!

What part of Virginia are you in?

I am interested in these, $1200 is a great price, I will take them.

Can you post photos of wheels please?

I have had your product on my 2018 JL for over a year and will attest to it functioning flawlessly since I installed it.

Just doesn't make any sense does it.

Funny you say that because the biggest reason I did not go with a Rubicon when I ordered my Sahara was I couldn't stand the red dash.

He may have a different perspective than you but I would not say he is uninformed, he makes a lot of quite valid points, again it's somewhat opinion but none the less valid. I have to agree with him, the launch addition has a special badge but the dash, well that's just like in my Sahara, the...