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Thanks. I'm a very cautious person so I'm getting the backup camera installed before I pick up the camper and I have a family friend that has worked at an RV dealership for years go with me to pick it up. I didn't trust the dealership (even though they've been outstanding) so I'm taking him to...

Thanks to all. I ended up buying a 2010 Tundra to use as a dedicated tow vehicle. My Overland is my daily driver and I was just too close on the payload max to chance it. Got a steal on a Tundra that is in good shape. Nothing compares to the Gladiator though!

We purchased a Grand Design Imagine XLSBHE yesterday. We haven't brought it home yet and it is over two hours away so I am supposed to go get it next week. I've never pulled a trailer of any kind and I'm very nervous about my first time being a two hour drive with a brand new 4500lb travel...

I agree with sroberts that this discussion has gone on long enough. I've gotten the answers I need though. It's clear now that the hitch weight is part of the payload. We've discussed it and IF we decide to get the trailer we will consider taking separate vehicles for some trips and leaving the...

I don't dispute any of what you're saying and I am 100% certain you know more than I about towing. I basically no nothing. I just can't get any concrete info as to whether a WDH will take care of the 200lbs I will be over my max payload with everyone in the truck. The dealers all say yes but...

Please see my reply to sroberts below. I would appreciate your opinion on those numbers as well. I realize there are other threads on this topic but I've spent hours and hours combing the Internet and I'm still unsure if I can safely tow this trailer or not. Bear in mind, I have never towed...

I've never towed anything, not even a lawn mower. My family will be with me on these trips so I value your opinion regardless of what others think. For what it's worth, my numbers are below: Trailer weight - 4500lbs dry Hitch weight - 456lbs dry Tow capacity - 600lbs GCVWR - 11100lbs Payload -...

So you are counting the weight of the WDH as part of the 4800lbs. and not an additional 75lbs. of "hitch weight"? I'm following the same basic formula as you but I added 100lbs. to the 456lb. hitch weight of my trailer making it 556lbs. If I figure it in with the wet weight of the trailer I can...

Ugh. So just so I'm clear the weight of all passengers and cargo, plus the hitch weight of the trailer (10% of the total trailer weight loaded), and the weight of the hitch itself gets subtracted from my max cargo capacity (1078lbs)? In my case that puts me over by around 250lbs. Based on your...

Out of curiosity, did you have to factor in the weight of the WDH itself against your payload? I'm reading through a different forum on the subject and it's making my head spin. If I can alleviate the payload by 150lbs than I will be within all the recommended numbers UNLESS the weight of the...

Ha ha, I meant upgrade to a Rubicon. I've been a Jeeper for a long time and don't plan on changing.....

Thanks so much for the informative answer. I've figured the weight INSIDE of the truck conservatively (adding pounds for kids as they grow as well as myself and my wife). By my figures, we can load 400lbs to the TT (excluding water tanks which we won't fill) and be within all the manufacturer...

Ok. I've been attempting to read about WDH's (again) but I'm still confused. If the dry hitch weight of a trailer is 456lbs does that weight go up when the trailer is loaded? I'm thinking it does based on other responses. Assuming it does, to say 490lbs, do I add ALL 490lbs when totaling cargo...

Ugh. That puts a damper on things. We would be right at the max payload in that scenario. Should have gotten a Rubicon....

This is probably a stupid question but I'm totally new to all of this. When you say 10%, am I correct that if the trailer is 4500lbs dry, and we load 400lbs into it, 490lbs needs to be applied to the hitch weight? When applied, I need to add 490lbs to the overall weight in the truck itself...

Thanks. I'll be using a WDH but not filling the water tanks on the camper. I should be under all the limits but cutting in close on payload as the kids grow (one is only 10 months/20lbs). Unfortunately by "reserved" I mean we paid a deposit before the dealership gets the trailer so they won't...

Thanks, you definitely seem knowledgable. In your opinion, am I stretching it pulling a 4500 travel trailer that has a 465lb hitch weight without filling the tanks and using a WDH? We have a different trailer reserved for September that weighs 4000lb but we like the heavier MUCH more. We are...

Thanks. I read through the posts a while back (along with 10000 other sites and Youtube videos). I've been adding the weight of all passengers and cargo in the truck and adding the 465lbs to the total and trying to stay within the parameters of the sticker on the door frame. Per the sticker, the...

The payload capacity has been the hardest part of the search for a camper. For my Overland, according to the sticker inside the door frame, the max payload is 5800lbs. The GCVWR is 11,100lbs so I think we will be ok there. The hitch weight on the camper we want is 465lbs and with the family and...

I don't have a trailer yet but so far the Bluetooth connectivity has been flawless. We found a camper we like but it has a dry weight of 4600lbs. I've never pulled a trailer of any kind and other than a ton of Internet research I know very little about it. Does anyone have an opinion as to...