I guess I struck a nerve Kevman
I use an alias like so many super heroes - my intent is to filter out the whiny baby BS on this forum and restore order to a once peaceful place. My super power in this case is sarcasm and spotting flocks of wahs wahs!
I hate it when the local bakery has long lines and they run out of marble rye because some old lady buys the last one. Then I'm compelled to tell everyone on a Jeep forum about my problems. I REALLY hate that!
In the past this was a really helpful forum and now it's like some sad attempt at...
So I found this formula that everyone might find helpful:
If your tire size is entered as the x value, the result is your required lift size.
If you take that result to a factor of 17 you'll have your level of "gullibility". It's a Latin term but don't let it intimidate you.