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Yikes, over $70K for a Rubicon X and it still only has the Pentacrap and tiny 33 inch tires.

Wonder if Jeep is actually going to come out with the 4xE Gladiator in 2025. I think 2024 sales will be really slow. Highest priced mid-size truck with the worst/weakest engine offering. They really need to ditch the Pentacrap.

Ya Chinese white label products are getting out of control and taking over. Half the crap on Amazon is that garbage now.

Yikes, that's a ton of work and expense for a mediocre camera on the front. I'd put all that money into a custom 360 degree surround camera system with under-chassis view.

Farout actually worse. No trail cam or adaptive cruise.

Oh that's terrible the far-out diesels are missing those, just stopped my search for one. Imagine a Farout JTRD with MSRP of $77K designed fir off road and doesn't even have a front trail cam. Jeep is smoking crack.

All very good thoughts guys. I am re-considering a big dollar Gladiator build for a lot of the reasons mentioned here. I just don't think the capability and comfort ratio is there. I may just stick with my '23 Raptor with factory 37" tires if I'm going to be limited to "6" trails and build it...

Ya a local dealer here has now 7 Far-Out Ecodiesel Rubicons on the lot, MSRP $77K, currently marked at $60K (unknown junk fee BS). If they hit $55K and with 6.9% interest I think I'd bite.

Ya I think you are right on the aluminum, gotta always watch the weight. Portals eliminate the stock parking brake, so need the 74Weld addon.

I'm considering getting a 2024 Rubicon X and going with portal axles, 40" tires and a Hiatus hard-side camper. I'd like to be able to do 8 rated trails with it and camp in some serious remote spots and would like to get your guys thoughts. I will be doing all the work myself and have $150K for...

Not steep enough apparently. There are 5 Rubicon Far Outs diesels at my local dealership, $77K MSRP for $60K and they have been sitting for a few months now.

I've also been looking at the Scout line. I have a similar dilemma of finding the right "trail capability" and comfort compromise that my fiancé would like to join me regularly. Obviously the largest factor would be trail size and height for branches. I have a 23' F150 Raptor with 37" tires...

Is this the first 2024 window sticker: https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6JJTEG7RL104609 Just wondering how they priced the 2024's vs the 2023's now that sales have gone off a cliff and the economic outlook continues to decline. Wow they increased the...

Was thinking about getting back into a diesel Rubicon but I sat in a '24 wrangler and the seats are SO much better. I HATE the seats in the current Gladiator. So basically for me a choice between better seats and the diesel.

Show these companies their crazy price increases aren't going to fly and cancel.

$2.92/gallon for diesel? Wow you are lucky, must be a Texas thing. AAA is still showing the US average diesel over $4/gallon.

Yup, these are escape clauses. Stellantis wants to be done with the EcoDiesel. Further warranty work on the engine even in warranty period IMO is sketchy. And LOL at below 20F being "extreme cold".

I'm honestly not surprised. When my Gen 1 Ecodiesel in my 2014 Grand Cherokee blew up, dealer replaced it and didn't secure like any hoses or wiring. There is no accountability, pride or quality control in America anymore as we spiral into a low trust society.

There are some pretty good year end deals with leftover diesel Gladiators. The question is, would you do it again? Just thinking why I sold my '22 JTRD. Obviously the fuel pump recall was a big one. The thought of my Jeep stranding me in the middle of the mountains while overlanding was a HUGE...

You're right, they are moving the profits from the sticker to the financing. My local Jeep dealer is offering 15% off on a new 2024 Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve L. When my girlfriend with a 660 credit score went in to buy it, they offered her 12% interest rate. Yes, 12%. Let's just say we...