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I get that, but I don't think the after-market upgrades added more than a couple hundred pounds. It was still well under the 7700 lbs limit and 1600 lbs payload. It did okay, about what I expected. Still felt like 5000-5500 lbs is more realistic, especially for long-distance highway towing.

So, after years of thinking about getting a Gladiator I finally picked one up - a slightly used 2024 Sport S w/Max Tow and gobs of other options (MSRP was $59,500, I got it with 14,000 miles for $34k). The previous owner also put probably $8k of after-market upgrades into it (really nice hard...

Thanks - this is great. So, it shows 240amp, trailer sway dampening, 7-4 pin, and trailer zoom. Does not show trailer tow pkg specifically, but aren't these the components of that package?

I've looked at dozens of Willys and have never seen one with the tow package. I really think this is a manual vs automatic distinction. According to this VIN decoder, the vehicle does have a 240 amp: https://chevroletforum.com/forum/vindecoder.php?vin=1C6HJTAG6RL117484 Anyway, thanks this...

Huh - my bad, I must have left out the dash. Thanks again.

Thank You! There it is - manual vs automatic. Got it. Guess the real limiting factor on the Willys is the payload capacity.

Appreciate the links, but neither one works. Camping World is saying 6000 lbs - that does "feel" right because the Willys package seems to include the standard towing package on the Sport S. But Camping World also rates all Sport, Sport S, and Nighthawk at 7700 lbs - just assumes that they have...

Max Tow is Sport S specific. But a Sport S with 3.73 axle specced the standard tow package is 6000 lbs. Just trying to figure out if the standard tow package is embedded in the Willys package since it does come with the class IV receiver.

I know this has been brought up before, but I'm still confused on the towing capacity / payload of the Willys. I see 4000 and 6000. Most suggest 4000, because it's unclear if it comes with the towing package (although it is specced with a Class IV hitch, which kind of suggests it comes with the...

I didn't notice this on the CarFax on my first look, but this Gladiator was leased vehicle. I thought that leases generally required leased vehicles to have scheduled maintenance performed.

It's a Jeep dealership owned by Hendrick. They don't seem to CPO many of their vehicles. When I asked why the salesman said it was still under warranty and too new, which made little sense. Reason for the Jeep vs full size is I like having a convertible. I recently sold my 135i and then a 2022...

I really appreciate them - from a fellow North Carolinian too.

I know CarFax has been sued by consumers for publishing bad data that hurts their car's resale values. But a dealership reporting that it completed an oil change and rotated the tires? Can't imagine that would ever result in a lawsuit - and plenty of dealers do report that. I can see how an...

CarFax matches the VIN on vehicle and window sticker - just shows zero maintenance. Salesman told me it's too new / under warranty to be CPO, which is BS - plenty of newer ones with fewer miles out there that are CPO. Could be reflected in the price, which is about $2k lower than I've seen on...

The dealership (a Hendrick dealer in NC) offers a CarFax - a service it pays for - but Hendrick service departments evidently don't send their own performed services to CarFax. I find that peculiar, because dealerships pay to provide CarFax reports to customers, but sending the services they...

Lowest I'm seeing on used 2024 Gladiators (which generally come with Adaptive Cruise, which I also won't live without anymore), is about 42% off original MSRP - or in the mid-30's well-specced with less than 15k miles. Did you get yours in Florida, the state with the $2000+ doc and prep fees...

Thanks for this - very good point. It is being sold at a Jeep dealership - not sure why it's not CPO, although there's plenty of low mileage Jeeps being sold at Jeep dealerships that aren't CPO. I'll ask them about that and see if they could throw it into the bargain. I was told they did a 260...

The sales guy also checked with the service department and they had no records of any maintenance performed at a Jeep dealership. Anyway, it's probably not an issue - first owner likely did an oil change. I'm thinking that the buyer who gets the max tow package probably is the kind of owner who...

A big, reputable rental company like Enterprise probably follows the maintenance schedule of its rental vehicles pretty closely - probably get flagged in the system when at every interval. I'd worry a little about how renters treat a vehicle like a Gladiator, but pretty good chance it was...

Hey all, So, I'm looking at a 2024 Gladiator with the Max Tow Package - 17,000 miles, dealer's asking $33,500 (MSRP was $56,000 - the depreciation on these things is nuts!). Not certified. Looks clean, no obvious signs of abuse, and drives fine, but zero maintenance history - not on the Carfax...