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Thanks again. This is hopefully the last vehicle I'll have to buy. I want to get the right one. I know I need to do some road testing, and I like the Rubicon and Willy's both, but I'll look at other trim levels.

Thanks everyone. I just don't like the look of the Rubicon rims. They look better blacked out. I know I can get aftermarket rims, but for the price of a Rubicon you'd think they'd offer blacked out rims.

In the next few months I'm looking to get a new vehicle. I love the Rubicon, but hate the tires... I love the tires on the Willy's.. (Blacked out). I'm looking for a hunting, fishing, campus vehicle.. Unlike both styles.. I'm not looking to rock crawl, just disappear in the mountain...