Cindy

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  • MODEL YEAR:
    1964
    MAKE:
    Kaiser-Willys Jeep
    MODEL/TRIM:
    Gladiator Pick Up Truck
    COLOR:
    Red
    ENGINE:
    Tornado Six Cyl w Holley Carb
    TRANSMISSION:
    3 on a Tree
    HISTORY/COMMENTS:
    This is in progress. She runs and drives. Truck will let me know what to do next. Goal is daily driver. Need a/c & tint for that... I'll post updates here...

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  1. 5JeepsAz
    Goal? So in that time, if I'm keeping her original, the guy would wash his work truck for a date. That was about it. Nobody was showing or hot rodding or low riding a Jeep Gladiator. Thus the goal is factory or showroom paint shine, jeep style, meaning not too bright, not too shiny, but enough so she notices you washed the truck. Whatever parts of her I can get to showroom floor level shine, probably interior, great. Whatever else gets the old truck finish, shiny but not near new shine. As for patina, she is perfect right now so not touching areas where there is no paint will keep the decades old rust look. And, if I fuck it up or it doesn't look right, I'll save up for a paint job which will cost as much as I paid for the vehicle, placing me squarely in the more in it than it's worth category. If you go to AutoZone and look at the clean and shine section, the number of products will tell why this is important. I can only select one out of a hundred products. And this one guy on YouTube said no you can't use dish soap because it removes lipids like grease and we want to keep our paint fatty so it don't dry out. This paint and detail thing is serious fucking business!! Lol. Love this truck! PS, don't interrupt your wife to share the realization that clear coat changed the chemical nature of truck cleaning. It is possible this is not of her particular concern.
  2. 5JeepsAz
    Paint. Been studying on it. Fully realize this matters to almost nobody. Here we go. So clear coat is a second stage of paint process. After it's introduction, clear coat changed the manner of waxation. Old days, dude with a rag, soap, and some wax could get the shine. That was back in the days of one stage paint process, just paint! Seems obvious, but it took me hours of you tube to figure out. Ok, so, Cindy. I've got one shot to remove oxidized paint, leaving just a layer of corrected original paint. In some cases microns. Meaning? Cindy has everything from factory red inside the doors, probably same thickness as factory, all the way to bare metal, with every paint thickness in between. Variables are rust corroding from under the paint, previous efforts to get the paint right including swirls from sand paper, different chemicals applied, oxidation of zero to 100%, and time delay. Different people trying to solve the paint at different years and stopping because they did not wish to mess it up, all the while the untouched portions continued to oxidized and rust apace. Result? Cindy has about 20 different paint jobs on her, having said already it originates from one factory paint job.
  3. 5JeepsAz
    Okay downside of resto is truck lives at the garage. Haven't seen her in too long. Want to get busy fixing the door panels. They are original but not installed. Hey - four wheel drive is functional according to mechanic. More news if I ever get her back .the wait isn't on the scale of waiting for JT price .. yet. But it's getting there.
  4. 5JeepsAz
    5/7/2019

    Met with mechanic. Doing safety first. Brakes. New alternator. New radiator. Also some dampener wheel, the kind that sticks out of the engine, needs a rubber which may mean replacement. Also decided to to the little stuff myself. Cindy can be worked on easily, I have specs and parts manuals. Why not? And coolest thing ever, after watching a ton of cleanup vids, I rubbed some off the worst parts of what I thought was an 80's respray. Guess motherfucking what? Original paint!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just oxidized beyond belief. Even fooled a detail guy. Yesterday though, I made a red spot in the middle of the hood! [email protected] right. Cindy is an all original gal, down to the paint. More post when I get her back. If I ever get her back. He said prying one brake drum took a ton of time.
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  5. 5JeepsAz
    04/28/2019

    Posted 1st To Do list in photos above. So Cindy is at the shop getting checked out. A/C is a major consideration. Posted a pic of a possible solution. It's ordered. Will update results, hopefully mechanic givers her back soon!
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  6. 5JeepsAz
    4/25/19

    So I finally got TTL&I.

    Got itchy with Cindy just sitting there.

    So, before it went to the mechanic I went to the paint guy.

    Like I'm some sort of Rubi owner. lmao.

    Which was okay except I have a coat of cheapest Earl scheib from 1979 that has oxidized, unkonwn if it's primer or actual paint. Paint guy #1 won't touch it. Never been thrown out of a detail shop before. lol.

    Also I'm driving back and it quits. So I pull over for an hour waiting for AAA.

    Odd, I had no problem sitting in the turning lane for an hour watching cars go by cause this is like the fourth time I've driven it. The only jeep wave was an 80's Comanche.

    Now she's going to the mechanic before I get adventurous again.

    Love this truck.

    Oh, the cops stopped and gave me a clean bill of health, so shouldn't get stopped unless I get stupid. Won't be for speeding. Cindy only lets me find the hole for third gear about every third try. Could be speed, timing, rpms. But I think it's mood. Shifts real good into third when she's growly. Only goes about 45 so far.
  7. 5JeepsAz
    4/23

    Ok so tax title license and insurance done. To the mechanic for final safety is next. Hopefully driving this weekend. One learning is computers don't like old cars. Wouldn't take jeep, wanted Kaiser, then another screen wanted Willy's. Finally ended up with correct model etc though.
  8. 5JeepsAz
    4/22

    Well, today at DMV I registered Cindy. For 62-64 Gladiator pick up truck they did not have any choice option so I got mine registered as commercial one ton (it's a TWO DOOR LONG BED JEEP PICKUP OF COURSE). However, they did offer me the FC 150 and 170 by full name (the guy shocked me when he said "is it a forward control?) so that's something. They had cjs and others too but I waited and the last was was pickup truck. Got plates!!!
  9. 5JeepsAz
    Shoot. Lost alonger post about shifter, paint, and plates!
  10. 5JeepsAz
    4/11/2019

    So tonight's fun was bushings. Upshot is, the throw on the column shifter is Looonnng. So internet says it is bushings and shows cool pictures (great link below) to remind me of how the sleeve on a column shifter surrounds the steering column, has feet sticking out at the under side end that attach to the transmission by way of connector rods. Okay, so each juncture is made possible by your local bushings. I get under there to check. Wow! Original bushings all over the place, gotta get new. Even if some were replaced twenty years ago, that's still not modern.

    So, who does? Me? Trusted mechanic? Actual jeep resto mechanic that doesn't email back? ...

    https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/column-shifter-too-loosey-how-to-tighten.408569/

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  13. 5JeepsAz
    ... original here: http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/tornado230.html

    The Tornado was used in Willys Pickups, Willys Wagons, J-series pickups, Wagoneers, M715s, and M725s.

    The 230 was used in Jeep pickups (Gladiator) from 1963 until 1964. It was also used in Willys Pickups and Willys Wagons from '63 until '65.

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  14. 5JeepsAz
    ...Terrific History ...

    Link to original here: http://www.ifsja.org/tech/motors/tornado.html excerpt below

    "Tornado 230 CI Engine Information / History
    Contributed By: Ben Page

    Who designed it, service history, what happen when Kaiser/Jeep realized they built a lemon-warantee problems. Is this engine a decendent of the Contenental 226. Any informantion on the development and use of this engine. Any printed info that I can access, books, archives, websites etc.

    Credit for this engine, which Willys identified as the Tornado OHC went to its Chief Engineer since 1952, A. C. Sampietro who had come to Willys at that time from Europe where he had worked for Donald Healy of the Austin Healy empire. In that context Sampietro had attracted attention by developing a cylinder head for the Nash engine that increased its output from 140 HP to 189 HP. Furthermore, Sampietro had been involved in chassis design at Healy that contributed to the demise of the old, and he ascertained that it was not possible to combine a soft ride with good road-holding capabilities."

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  15. 5JeepsAz
    ..great article. Except below.

    Original here:

    http://www.offroaders.com/tech/jeep/engine-factory-kaiser230i6.htm

    "The "Tornado" 230 I6 uses a cast iron block and cylinder head with over head valves. The 230 was a bit ahead of its time because it used an overhead cam. The engine gets a bad reputation because of it's complexity compared to other engines at the time. The 230 is the only Kaiser engine to be used in a Jeep in all the years they owned Jeep.

    The Jeep 6-230 Tornado engine was the first U.S. designed mass-produced overhead cam (OHC) engine. It was introduced in 1963 and replaced the flathead 6-226 Super Hurricane, which had been in use since 1954. It is still the only engine designed, developed, and built by Jeep and used only in Jeeps.

    The Tornado, like most Jeep engines, was undersquare for better low speed torque. It had a 3.34 inch bore with a 4.38 inch stroke. The standard version had an 8.5:1 compression ratio. Output was 140 hp at 4000 rpm and 210 ft·lbf of torque at 1750 rpm. A low-compression (7.5:1) version was also available, with 133 hp at 4000 rpm and 199 ft·lbf of torque at 2400 rpm.

    The Tornado was a good engine, unfortunately it was complex (by 1960s standards) and was discontinued in civilian vehicles in the U.S.A. in 1965. It continued to be used in military versions of the Jeep pickup, the M-715 and M-725, until 1969. One unique feature of the design was that the camshaft only had six lobes. One lobe operated both the intake and exhaust valve for each cylinder. This made engineering cam profiles a bit more difficult than conventional two lobe per cylinder (one per valve) designs, but allowed the valves to be better arranged for the cross-flow head. Valves were directly opposite their respective ports, and ports were short with wide radius turns."

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