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Right now I'm on the factory Dueler HT tires and I've probably still got another year or two before I have to start seriously looking at new tires. I'm researching NOW so when it's time for new tires, I'm ready to get what I want and need.

I do some light off roading, nothing radical, my most recent outing was an ORV road that was sand. So much sand. Managed it OK without airing down the tires. When I get new tires, I'm thinking of getting all terrain tires just to have a bit more confidence going off the pavement. BUT because we tow our camper with the Jeep, I'm not going to be putting a lift on or going up in the tire size.

So my main questions are:
  • When you switched from the HTs to ATs, did you notice much, if any change in your milage?
  • How about road noise, is it much worse, or does the normal road noise and wind noise drown out the tires?
  • Do you get about the same miles out of the tires before needing to replace them, especially if most of your driving is pavement?
I do live in Michigan, so snow on the roads is also a bit of a factor, but honestly I've driven everything from a 1973 Chevy Chevelle Malibu with a 350 V-8, a 2006 Dodge Charge R/T, to a 2012 Subaru BRZ in the snow, so I'm not too worried about that (plus, any tires I get are going to be the "Three Peak Mountain Snowflake" tires and I'm planning on swapping out the stock rims for Method bead grips)
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AT's bare minimum on a Jeep. No noise, no change in milage, 60K miles and sill half tread on BFG AT2. Just buy ATs.
 

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I went from the stock highway 245/75/17 to LT-E all terrain 265/70/17. About the same diameter so no adjustment for tire size or speedometer is required, no loss in towing ability. But wider due to 265 instead of 245, and then wider still due to all-terrain tread. About 9" wide instead of 7" even though the same diameter.

I keep them around 50 PSI because I tow and that's what it took to keep the tires cool at 70 MPH in the summer heat. Wear is excellent. Did so on another truck for decades.

About a 10% hit, around 2 MPG. Where I used to get around 22 with the stock highway tires, I now get around 20 MPG.

Good cornering and emergency maneuvers due to being LT tires. Good for towing stability and offroading durability. Survives the rocks. Great for blasting through switchbacks.

Also have Bilstein 5100 shocks, making for a well controlled vehicle. Drives like a sports truck, but you do feel the little bumps. It's not a big deal if you are used to trucks with LT tires, or sports cars.

265/70 17 is a very common size. Available from many manufacturers, and thus probably easy to find a replacement in some small town if necessary.

If I lived closer to the mountains and forest then I'd probably get a larger size, but as it is I have to travel hundreds of miles to get anywhere interesting, usually towing as well, and am lucky to do so once a year at the most. So I'm content to use a practical size of tire and be limited to the mid-grade trails.

I happen to use Cooper Discoverer AT3, but I'm sure other brands would be fine as well.
 

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I went from the stock highway 245/75/17 to LT-E all terrain 265/70/17. About the same diameter so no adjustment for tire size or speedometer is required, no loss in towing ability. But wider due to 265 instead of 245, and then wider still due to all-terrain tread. About 9" wide instead of 7" even though the same diameter.

I keep them around 50 PSI because I tow and that's what it took to keep the tires cool at 70 MPH in the summer heat. Wear is excellent. Did so on another truck for decades.

About a 10% hit, around 2 MPG. Where I used to get around 22 with the stock highway tires, I now get around 20 MPG.

Good cornering and emergency maneuvers due to being LT tires. Good for towing stability and offroading durability. Survives the rocks. Great for blasting through switchbacks.

Also have Bilstein 5100 shocks, making for a well controlled vehicle. Drives like a sports truck, but you do feel the little bumps. It's not a big deal if you are used to trucks with LT tires, or sports cars.

265/70 17 is a very common size. Available from many manufacturers, and thus probably easy to find a replacement in some small town if necessary.

If I lived closer to the mountains and forest then I'd probably get a larger size, but as it is I have to travel hundreds of miles to get anywhere interesting, usually towing as well, and am lucky to do so once a year at the most. So I'm content to use a practical size of tire and be limited to the mid-grade trails.

I happen to use Cooper Discoverer AT3, but I'm sure other brands would be fine as well.
I agree with uparms plenty of information out there and opinions on a/t tires. I haven't used anything but a/t tires in so long I forget that normal tread exists. I vote for Bfg's KO 2s I'm a new Gladiator owner and I put a fresh set on due to having just replaced the set on my wife's FJ cruiser after 109,000 miles on them. Always balanced and keep pressure around 37 psi.
 

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Right now I'm on the factory Dueler HT tires and I've probably still got another year or two before I have to start seriously looking at new tires. I'm researching NOW so when it's time for new tires, I'm ready to get what I want and need.

I do some light off roading, nothing radical, my most recent outing was an ORV road that was sand. So much sand. Managed it OK without airing down the tires. When I get new tires, I'm thinking of getting all terrain tires just to have a bit more confidence going off the pavement. BUT because we tow our camper with the Jeep, I'm not going to be putting a lift on or going up in the tire size.

So my main questions are:
  • When you switched from the HTs to ATs, did you notice much, if any change in your milage?
  • How about road noise, is it much worse, or does the normal road noise and wind noise drown out the tires?
  • Do you get about the same miles out of the tires before needing to replace them, especially if most of your driving is pavement?
I do live in Michigan, so snow on the roads is also a bit of a factor, but honestly I've driven everything from a 1973 Chevy Chevelle Malibu with a 350 V-8, a 2006 Dodge Charge R/T, to a 2012 Subaru BRZ in the snow, so I'm not too worried about that (plus, any tires I get are going to be the "Three Peak Mountain Snowflake" tires and I'm planning on swapping out the stock rims for Method bead grips)
If mileage and snow safety are your concerns. I would consider getting a second set or winter wheels and get some dedicated snow/ice tires for winter travel. Switching from one to the other every winter will help both last twice as long. I also have the same Dueler HT, that I find are fine, especially in rain with most AT tires. Especially towing. Good luck.
 

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I'm not sure how the Dueler HTs do for tread wear to be able to compare them to something else. Mine came with Duelers, but I took them off at 7k miles. How many miles do you think you'll get out of yours?
 

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I can understand having serious off road or mud tires for Rally's or trail days but why have two sets of wheels and tires for normal driving. Double the trouble and at least double the cost. Just pick a tire that works for you and the conditions that you normally encounter. There will be weather/events that I'm sure we all wish we had a different tire (temporary). Lots of great options available each with a plus or minus. Key is what you need as far as weather and how you drive. Best of luck 🤞
 
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If mileage and snow safety are your concerns. I would consider getting a second set or winter wheels and get some dedicated snow/ice tires for winter travel. Switching from one to the other every winter will help both last twice as long. I also have the same Dueler HT, that I find are fine, especially in rain with most AT tires. Especially towing. Good luck.
I can agree with having two sets, I did it with my BRZ when I had it, but I did find one minor headache to snow tires...
If you have one that needs to be replaced, at least in Mich, you need to replace BOTH tires on that axle if you can't find the same brand, model, and size snow tire (which, if it needs replacing when winter is winding down, say, early Feb? Yeah, now you're going to have 2 snow tires and 2 non-snow tires because no one has snow tires still in stock!)
 
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I'm not sure how the Dueler HTs do for tread wear to be able to compare them to something else. Mine came with Duelers, but I took them off at 7k miles. How many miles do you think you'll get out of yours?
Well, I've got just north of 30k now, I'd expect another 20-30k out of them, barring a flat or such.

I can understand having serious off road or mud tires for Rally's or trail days but why have two sets of wheels and tires for normal driving. Double the trouble and at least double the cost. Just pick a tire that works for you and the conditions that you normally encounter. There will be weather/events that I'm sure we all wish we had a different tire (temporary). Lots of great options available each with a plus or minus. Key is what you need as far as weather and how you drive. Best of luck 🤞
IF I were to go to dedicated snow tires and dedicated spring/summer/fall tires, I'd keep the stock rims and toss the snow tires on those (similar to my BRZ, I had cheap steel wheels for the winter tires)

But, honestly, I'm leaning towards one set of A/Ts for year round.
 

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Right now I'm on the factory Dueler HT tires and I've probably still got another year or two before I have to start seriously looking at new tires. I'm researching NOW so when it's time for new tires, I'm ready to get what I want and need.

I do some light off roading, nothing radical, my most recent outing was an ORV road that was sand. So much sand. Managed it OK without airing down the tires. When I get new tires, I'm thinking of getting all terrain tires just to have a bit more confidence going off the pavement. BUT because we tow our camper with the Jeep, I'm not going to be putting a lift on or going up in the tire size.

So my main questions are:
  • When you switched from the HTs to ATs, did you notice much, if any change in your milage?
  • How about road noise, is it much worse, or does the normal road noise and wind noise drown out the tires?
  • Do you get about the same miles out of the tires before needing to replace them, especially if most of your driving is pavement?
I do live in Michigan, so snow on the roads is also a bit of a factor, but honestly I've driven everything from a 1973 Chevy Chevelle Malibu with a 350 V-8, a 2006 Dodge Charge R/T, to a 2012 Subaru BRZ in the snow, so I'm not too worried about that (plus, any tires I get are going to be the "Three Peak Mountain Snowflake" tires and I'm planning on swapping out the stock rims for Method bead grips)
I'd love to see a picture of the tires that you are trying to decide between. I know tires are a huge thing for jeeps.
 

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I'd love to see a picture of the tires that you are trying to decide between. I know tires are a huge thing for jeeps.
Right now, tire-wise, I don't have anything in particular in mind.

Wheels? Wheels I've got in mind :)
My personal preference, sadly, Method has discontinued (MR706 in titanium) so now I'm looking at MR705s in titanium.
 

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I bought a Sport S and changed tires in the first 600 miles to Cooper Rugged Trek (https://www.tirerack.com/survey/Sur...eMake=Cooper&tireModel=Discoverer+Rugged+Trek.) I went up in size to 285/70/17 without any regrets. Mileage stayed the same (no highway driving here at the beaches in Delaware) and the road noise is minimal, again, no highway driving. They are great on the beach and look a lot better than the stock Bridgestones. I did sell the Brigestones easily and got $400 for them to offset the new tire costs

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I always reccomend the Falken Wildpeaks like what came on my Mojave. I'm at 70,000 miles on them, might replace next summer.

Great in all terrain conditions. Maybe a little loud on the highway but hard to say the whole jeep is just loud anyways.
 

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I went from the original set of Bridgestone AT to a take off set of Rubicon wheels wearing Mud Terrains. I finally wore them out and picked up a set of Nokian Outpost nAT. Big jump in noise/cut in mileage with the larger MT's The Nokians are very quiet, barely noticeable over ambient. I was expecting an mpg bump over the MT, but it seems like I've lost a 1/2 point- barely touching 16 around town now, was getting 16-17 on the MT, IIRC around 18 on the stock size. Part of it can be chalked up to not reprogramming the ECU to the larger tire size, but I thought the less aggressive AT would do better

They are 3PMS rated and test pretty good in snow.
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Nokian-Outpost-nAT-vs-Hakkapeliitta-R5-vs-WRG4-vs-One.htm
 

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Well, I've got just north of 30k now, I'd expect another 20-30k out of them, barring a flat or such.
50-60k miles isn’t bad. Many ATs will also do that mileage so you can pretty easily match that.

I have 50k miles on Goodyear Ultraterrains and they have a lot of tread left. I’ll probably get 80k miles out of them.
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