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Now, that we're into recovery for the hurricanes, any of you guys help out there? What did you learn about your rigs and set ups?
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Luckily I’m nowhere near the chaos but at least it got my wife thinking regarding getting out of harms way if it came to it. Whereas when I proposed the question before, she didn’t want to think of it.

The convo ever since has been “if we had 30min to get out, what do we grab?”

So now we’re setting up plans to grab what we need for us and the kids to get out safely.

Edit: prob not the response you were expecting but def has started/continued the convo of readiness that includes having the JT always taken care of.
 
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If people learn anything at all, I hope it's, you cannot count on the government, regardless of party or politics, to be there when you need them with what you need.

People with a Jackery, a solar panel, and two cases of water from Sams Club were infinitely better off than the ones waiting on FEMA.
 
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If people learn anything at all, I hope it's, you cannot count on the government, regardless of party or politics, to be there when you need them with what you need.

People with a Jackery, a solar panel, and two cases of water from Sams Club were infinitely better off than the ones waiting on FEMA.
EXACTLY. I've got an RV that's stored on top of a hill, so the only fear there is if the whole mountain falls. But we live in a river city that's downstream of a dam. We've got an electrical plant AND oil refinery all downstream of it. That would be bad for the whole region if that oil refinery gets wiped out from a dam break. My house would go with it. SO, having that RV sorta prepped is something I try to do. But I'm also thinking of selling it, since it's not moved in 2 years. I can't afford the gas anymore.
I was thinking this kind of disaster would be exactly what overlanders are best situated to survive. Maybe I'm asking too early since I'm sure they are all likely more worried about rebuilding and not online so much.
Maybe some relief crews are using overland setups while helping out?
 

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Luckily I’m nowhere near the chaos but at least it got my wife thinking regarding getting out of harms way if it came to it. Whereas when I proposed the question before, she didn’t want to think of it.

The convo ever since has been “if we had 30min to get out, what do we grab?”

So now we’re setting up plans to grab what we need for us and the kids to get out safely.

Edit: prob not the response you were expecting but def has started/continued the convo of readiness that includes having the JT always taken care of.
My parents were stationed in West Germany back when that was a thing. The regulation on post was that all civilian vehicles must be kept at 1/2 tank or more at all times. If the Russians rolled though the Fulda Gap, everyone had to jump in their cars and drive the speed of mach-F@ck west while the military tried to blunt the attack.

My parents never broke that habit and I was always told to treat 1/2 tank as Empty. Saved my butt several times when we had storms knock out power for a day. No power, no pumps.
 

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In the Obama years, a bugout bag was 10 guns and 10,000 rounds of ammo. I never played the game (that stuff is heavy!). Hurricane Helene has me re-thinking disaster preparations.

I live near Augusta, GA. The hurricane was NOT supposed to come here, but it did. The eye wall passed near my home. I lost some trees, had a little house damage, and was without power for 8 days. Before the storm, I filled my tub half full of water. Why half? Just dumb. For the next storm, I'll fill that sucker up. You need water for at least 2 different things - drinking water and flushing water. I had food and a place to sleep. Lucky for me, I had my camper prepped for a trip (to Maggie Valley no less :) ) and parked in the driveway. That made life comparatively easy. A camper is a great start on a bugout bag. I also had my gas grill for cooking. My only chainsaw is electric. I used it plugged in to my camper (running on the generator). I would like a bigger-better saw. These things push me into buying and storing gas. I guess metal 5-gallon cans, filled with alcohol free gas that has a preservative (Stabil) added, is the easiest way. Thinking about keeping 10-15 gallons of gas in the garage does not make me happy. A big thing in the week after the storm was the cash economy. I had some cash, but I didn't have much small stuff. Many places that were selling for cash could not make change. Many of the roads around my house were blocked after the storm. My neighbors cut their way out. I should have been ready to help. I need to learn about freeze dried food and emergency medical kits too. So much to do!

The first day after a storm isn't hard. Each day after the first, the difficulty increases, often geometrically.
 
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My parents never broke that habit and I was always told to treat 1/2 tank as Empty. Saved my butt several times when we had storms knock out power for a day. No power, no pumps.
The first day after a storm isn't hard. Each day after the first, the difficulty increases, often geometrically.
This is the exact kind of input I'm looking for. We had an ice storm come through southwest oklahoma in 2009. The city had no power for almost a month. Thankfully, we had a gas stove. That kept us with warm water. I won't buy another house without a working fireplace. I keep my gas tanks at 1/2 minimum for the winter months. Summer, I get a little lax sometimes. But for sure, there's nothing worse than getting stuck due to fuel.
 

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Got in the habit a while back of keeping some basic staples on hand food/water wise. That and a basic knowledge of topography in the area are good to have. Know where you’re going if you are forced to leave home, etc.
 

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My parents are on the coast and getting up there in years. They finally put in a huge whole-house generator run off an underground propane tank. Came in handy with the storms. The generator maintained all of their power needs for several days. All of my utilities are underground so while we have friends who lost power for several days we were very blessed not to lose power at all. I’ve got natural gas so I’m thinking about a natural gas powered generator just in case. I’d lIke to be able to at least power phones, internet, and refrigerator / freezer.

Gas powered chainsaws are a key tool for clearing up debris / obstructions / zombies :). I have a battery powered pole saw but the real work is done by a Stihl gas chainsaw. The chainsaw is relatively small but is a beast and I’ve had it for years. Also have a couple old school hand saws from my grandfather in case I ever run out of gas (and oil).

I always keep a couple cases of water and a bunch of pasta on hand. Stove is gas and have three extra tanks of propane for the grill. Flushing would be courtesy of a 30k gallon pool.
 

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My parents were stationed in West Germany back when that was a thing. The regulation on post was that all civilian vehicles must be kept at 1/2 tank or more at all times. If the Russians rolled though the Fulda Gap, everyone had to jump in their cars and drive the speed of mach-F@ck west while the military tried to blunt the attack.

My parents never broke that habit and I was always told to treat 1/2 tank as Empty. Saved my butt several times when we had storms knock out power for a day. No power, no pumps.
I've instituted the "half is empty" ever since my wife was driving into Philly for work. As a side note, Philly as worse than the news says and I forbid her stopping for gas anywhere near Philly.

We've also been in the habit of always having gas on hand since we lose power if the wind blows sideways and we have to set up the generator.

And as @Andy29847 mentioned, having the RV/trailer always packed and fueled up, always having ammo and fuel ready to go to bug-out but also having options to bug-in.

And that's a great point: the first day is easy. It's the days after that shit really hits the fan!
 

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I've always been somewhat of a prepper. Rubbed off on me from my dad. He grew up on a farm during the depression. He taught me to be sufficient for when the SHTF happens, you are on your own. So I have gas for the generator, water, enough food ( both Mountain House and Patriot) to last awhile. I fish and hunt. Do my own reloading. Have a garden. When I had the RV's. They were ready to go on a moments notice.
 

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For a start:

After living in Typhoon Alley (Guam, and the Philippines) for a lot of years, prepping for disasters comes reflexively. Back here in the states, there are different problems and different solutions. But, the common thread is what can you live without? And, what do you need to live. Even if you pack and are ready for the disaster, can you get to your stuff? You can with a bug out bag and a staging area that is survivable (from the disaster then the humans that follow). Your stuff is only your stuff if you can keep it. Think .22 cal pistols (up front defense) and rifles (standoff distances) at a minimum. A brick of ammo is light and portable. They are handy also for procuring food in urban areas (sorry Fido or kitty).

Keeping fuel is nice if you have a generator. If you have solar on your house, find a way to isolate it if the grid goes down. Rotate your fuel stock regularly. Propane stoves are nice to have as both cooking tools and heat sources, but they only go so far. Get adapters for feeding large propane bottles to camp stoves. Keep them together. Water storage is also important. Purification straws help for other water sources. Canned food as well as dry foods are also good; again like your fuel, rotate them to keep from having to eat a 25 year old can of beans.

Be ready to move on a moment's notice no matter what you have made at "fortress home" . Again, the bugout bag. It doesn't take much to stuff a bunch of money in a pocket in the bag. Like a prior post said, no one will give you change for a $100.00 bill or even a $5.00 bill. So, small denominations work and don't draw attention. Don't forget Swiss Army/Leatherman knives in each bugout bag (most have can openers and multiple blades).

Just "game it out" now and you will start to realize you can be somewhat self sufficient, you just need to prepare. Then Act! Plans are great but actions count in the long run. You can always adjust to your environment.
 

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I don't think hunting peoples pets for food is a likely scenario in the US. According to Katrina survivors who had prepped extensively: Food goes slow in a disaster, but water goes fast. A common theme was too much emphasis on food and not enough on water.

I look at The Rule of Twos.

What's going to kill me in the next 2 minutes? (fire, exposure in extreme environments, immediate disaster like flooding)

What's going to kill me in the next 2 hours? (exposure)

What's going to kill me in 2 days? (dehydration, infection)

What's going to kill me in 2 weeks? (starvation, infection)

Food is way down the list. Shelter and water are much higher priorities.
 

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72 hour rule. Always keep the necessities on hand for at least that amount of time. People in place who are trustworthy, who know different things than you. For instance, doctor or nurse friends. People with different talents for sure. My .02¢
I am far away from disasters like that.
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