Its the 'I struggled so you struggle just as much' mentality - kind of toxic if you ask me. My folks gave me what they could and I am appreciative.Many are of the opinion that by not buying a vehicle for them will make their children more successful. Successful at what? Self reliance?
Values? Why draw the line at vehicles, did you buy your own bicycle,
Is hardship the way to teach life lessons? Does making your child pay for their own vehicle make them a better person?
I agree with you. Some people seem to forget they decided to lay down together and create a life. Then they act like the kids need to be working their ass off and doing this or that at a young age. If you decide to create a life, there is nothing wrong with providing for them. Im not saying spoil them but they didnt ask to be born.Its the 'I struggled so you struggle just as much' mentality - kind of toxic if you ask me. My folks gave me what they could and I am appreciative.
My parents crawled so I could walk and I am walking so that my children can one day sprint!
I did not get a car till I was 19 years and my father had bought the car for me as a gift, but my parents instilled the value of gratitude and financial aptitude while growing up just like yourself I started learning about money from my parents at the age of 10. I'm glad my parents taught me those lessons and I wouldn't mind buying a car for my son or daughter some dayNo facts just observations since I was in high school. A couple of kids were given cars [mostly new ones!] when they turned 16. Not one guy acted responsibly or showed any gratitude. Just spoiled pricks who thought their shit didn't stink because they had a car and the rest of us didn't---or we had to buy our own beater. There definitely some Eddie Haskells amongst them. Most of the girls were exactly the same--though I can remember two from high school that didn't act that way.
In college it was the same, those with the new and fancy cars were almost always pricks and the girls were just as bad---but much more subtle about it.
Spent parts of 2018 - 2020 with my girlfriend in Coronado CA---you wouldn't believe what those high schoolers are driving. BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus RC 300s, Jag F types. Hell I'm jealous of them.
My old man was a plastic surgeon and obviously could afford to buy us kids a car when we turned 16. He was a total car guy so he definitely understood how important driving was to a young guy or girl. Until he went soft all his cars had manual transmissions and big engines if they were offered to include his Jaguar XKE, '68 Pontiac GTO, '73 Pontiac Grand Am. Then he went soft and had fancy cars with automatic transmissions, a '75 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible and a '78 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz. In the early 80's he added a Series IV Excaliber to his two Caddys.
But he taught us the value of things and of ourselves. No free lunches and absolutely no free cars.
He started us as 5 year olds with our own bank account through simple index cards. Birthday money, allowance if we earned it, money from jobs that weren't part of our daily chores. If we wanted to keep the money and not give it to him he didn't care--but he paid 5% interest every month and we quickly learned that was free money! If we wanted to empty our account to buy a toy he would explain we could do whatever we wanted but it was always smart to keep some money in savings. When the next new thing came and we invariably had an empty bank account he just say go play with the thing you bought last month---which had zero interest as it wasn't new.
No one in my family was allowed to buy a car until they were 17. The girls didn't want to but my brother and I certainly did. As a gear head I was able to buy a car as soon as I turned 17 in the spring of '77.
I'd saved up half the money I needed and he lent me the other half at 1% ABOVE the going car loan rate, "Because no on except me is stupid enough to loan you money." At least he said it with a smile. I had a monthly payment and if i missed one the car got parked [thank God that didn't happen].
Anyway, long explanation on why I'm interested in why people give cars to kids.
I'm convinced that the reason we have so many idiots voting for the politicians who promise them free shit [which they're too stupid to realize never is] is due to not being taught the value of things. Add in the dumbing down to mediocrity and the they are "special" and deserve a trophy whether they win or not---it's no wonder that for most their quality of life is going to be much less than their parents.
Also @Jefe1018I agree with you. Some people seem to forget they decided to lay down together and create a life. Then they act like the kids need to be working their ass off and doing this or that at a young age. If you decide to create a life, there is nothing wrong with providing for them. Im not saying spoil them but they didnt ask to be born.
I was promised by my grandpa when i turned 16, if i graduated highschool (at times it looked like i wouldnt) and didnt get in trouble he would make sure i got something to drive to work (he damn sure wasnt going to let me drive his car that he loved). When i did graduate, him and my uncle got me a wrecked 1996 XJ for like a thousand bucks and fixed it up and gave it to me in 2004. Im still driving that beast to work today. That is not socialism that is family.
Kid 1 sounds like a dud, good thing you had a spare.I bought my first vehicle, but it was from my grandfather so way under what it actually cost. 1971 Ford Bronco Sport, loved it.
One of my sons will get a handmedown vehicle, 2001 Lexus LX470.
I'm building this with my other son.
I gave kid #1 the same option but he opted for the LX.