Dealer versus Taser programing

[jensjer]

Question can the dealer program things like passenger side seat heat "on" with remote start?
I feel like 99% of the taser functions I have little to no use for, if the dealer can program them I'd rather go that route..

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[ShadowsPapa]

Question can the dealer program things like passenger side seat heat "on" with remote start?
I feel like 99% of the taser functions I have little to no use for, if the dealer can program them I'd rather go that route..

Not the sort of thing a dealer's going to get into.
I've not seen any lines in the BCM code to indicate it can be done without a taser but I've got a message in to the JSCAN guy to see if he knows of way.
If it's possible to do without taser, he'll know.

 

[Gvsukids]

Question can the dealer program things like passenger side seat heat "on" with remote start?
I feel like 99% of the taser functions I have little to no use for, if the dealer can program them I'd rather go that route..

Why? They'll charge you more than the Tazer cost.

 

[ecidiego]

Dealer won't do anything that's not "an option" other than a Speedo cal. Example, they'll program for a halogen to LED change and a few other options with sales codes, but not all of them. They won't do the Front Trailcam etc.

Imagine asking them to change the BCM option that activates the alarm if the hood is opened while locked. They'll blank stare you.

 

[FitfulGoat]

Why? They'll charge you more than the Tazer cost.

This exactly. 150$ for a tire/speedo calibration (quote from local dealership) alone is ridiculous. They would likely charge similar for any other programming needed. Use that service twice and you are at the same cost of a Tazer. Even cheaper if you go the jscan route.

 

[Newlife]

You’d be better off with a tazer than the dealer. There are a lot of features as mentioned the dealers don’t even know about. I have my turn assist on where my camera activates with the turn signal. When I went in for my last service all the service techs were trying to figure out how that worked. The dealership also won’t disable the auto start stop feature because it’s a “safety” feature. For a buy once cry once solution a tazer or jscan would be your best bet.

 

[Rahkmalla]

This exactly. 150$ for a tire/speedo calibration (quote from local dealership) alone is ridiculous. They would likely charge similar for any other programming needed. Use that service twice and you are at the same cost of a Tazer. Even cheaper if you go the jscan route.

I had a dealer quote me $165 to install a TPMS on my spare (not including the part) because my "jumbo wheels" were too big for their tire machine. I have the same size tires as Xtreme Recon Wranglers. I pointed that out and he said "yea we don't service those here". I wonder if Jeep knows they have dealerships out there not willing to service the vehicles they sell...

The long and the short of it is: dealers will charge obscene amounts for little bits of work because most people just don't know any better. They probably get away with it 9 out of 10 times and the 10th time with someone like you or I they figure they made plenty of money on the other 9 so who cares if you lose one.

 

[jensjer]

Why? They'll charge you more than the Tazer cost.

The. I don’t have to have some aftermarket gizmo permanently connected to the ride

 

[Gvsukids]

The. I don’t have to have some aftermarket gizmo permanently connected to the ride

You don't need to for a lot of the options, such like Jscan.

 

[jensjer]

You’d be better off with a tazer than the dealer. There are a lot of features as mentioned the dealers don’t even know about. I have my turn assist on where my camera activates with the turn signal. When I went in for my last service all the service techs were trying to figure out how that worked. The dealership also won’t disable the auto start stop feature because it’s a “safety” feature. For a buy once cry once solution a tazer or jscan would be your best bet.

The start stop disable sounds interesting can that be done, without that thing connected the entire time? IF I take it to the dealer for say warranty maintenance and they need to plug in and they find that there or remove it is there ever issues? say having to reprogram everything again or dealer coming back to void warranties?

 

[Newlife]

The start stop disable sounds interesting can that be done, without that thing connected the entire time? IF I take it to the dealer for say warranty maintenance and they need to plug in and they find that there or remove it is there ever issues? say having to reprogram everything again or dealer coming back to void warranties?

Once you program the tazer you can uninstall it and most functions stay but you’ll still want to unmarry it when you go in for service unless you have a dealer that’s cool with mods like mine. It’s really easy to program should take you less time to program it than install once you’re familiar with it.

 

[HooliganActual]

The start stop disable sounds interesting can that be done, without that thing connected the entire time? IF I take it to the dealer for say warranty maintenance and they need to plug in and they find that there or remove it is there ever issues? say having to reprogram everything again or dealer coming back to void warranties?

If you get a Tazer, buy one of these too:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7VR6W1F?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

It will save your knuckles, fingetips, backs of hands. The ports to plug the Tazer into are not in the best location as it wasn't meant to be "regularly accessed" to plug things in and out. This cable essentially extends the ports to make it easier to remove the Tazer and reinstall the wire harness that needs to be there when you take it to the dealer.

As far as ease of installing and removing, it's really not bad. Before I go to the dealer, I unmarry it and unplug the Tazer/reinstall the wire harness. When the service is over, I usually unplug the harness and return the Taze and remarry right where the service tech parked my rig, ~5 minutes +/-

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The start stop disable sounds interesting can that be done, without that thing connected the entire time? IF I take it to the dealer for say warranty maintenance and they need to plug in and they find that there or remove it is there ever issues? say having to reprogram everything again or dealer coming back to void warranties?

Taser MUST be installed and enabled to disable ESS. It's a live only function because all it does is tell the PCM the button has been pressed by the taser remembering the last state of the button and sending that signal to the system.

The only things that stay are settings that can be changed by anything - such as tire size, that sort of thing. You can set that with any decent software because it's a choice in the software of the truck.
Things that are not a choice in the software such as ESS disable must have the device present to work.

If I want ESS turned off for $200+ I'll push a freakin button, good grief.
Don't want the hassle, sorry, and can't justify the expense for the 1 or 2 things I might find fun or cool.
That's just me, I guess - just call me "Damien"

 

[IamPro2A]

Not the sort of thing a dealer's going to get into.
I've not seen any lines in the BCM code to indicate it can be done without a taser but I've got a message in to the JSCAN guy to see if he knows of way.
If it's possible to do without taser, he'll know.

It's a "live" feature of the Tazer, so it probably can not be done by the dealer, or with Jscan/AlfaOBD.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It's a "live" feature of the Tazer, so it probably can not be done by the dealer, or with Jscan/AlfaOBD.

Yeah, I finally got to it and checked all settings and it obviously is a live function so can't be programmed by anyone, including a dealer.
Likely the tazer device detects the signal to start the driver seat and sends the corresponding signal for the passenger seat.
Interesting that it's not an option in the CSM. It would make perfect sense to do that. Why do a remote start if you are going to have wife or husband with you and let them freeze their butts?

JSCAN just sent me a message and confirmed - there's no such setting.

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