Dedicated snow tires?

[Mac]

Anyone run dedicated snow tires on a JT? If so what tire and what size?

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[Wyofuy069]

Just ordered 4 Hakkapeliitta lt3 studded tires. I’m still on 285/70/17.

 

[Puttyandnapalm]

Seems most will tell you to just run ATs with the 3 mtn peak symbol. I did ok with duratracs the past couple winters (northern Indiana and western Maryland). The KO2 and ATX also get amazing snow ratings on tirerack.com.

I am planning on running 275/70/18 (33.2) in a general Arctic on a spare set of overland rims I was gifted.
not many options over 33’. I think Nokian has a 315/70/17.

 

[Wyofuy069]

Yes the lt3 has a 315/70/17 that is a little under 35 inches tall. And as far as dedicated winter tires go it really depends on where you live. I grew up outside Philly and would not even bother there. Heck some years it hardly ever snows and even then melts within a week. Now Wyoming is a different story. Here blizzards are the biggest problems. I have ran Hakka’s for about 10 years now and they are amazing. Studs are legal year round here and make ice driving a non event. People always recommend chains but I have had the worst luck with them. Last time I tried using chains in college they wrapped around the axle of a Saab. They look so easy to put on when it is 70 degrees and sunny, but not so much when the wind chill is close to -50.

 

[MattHamilton]

Anyone run dedicated snow tires on a JT? If so what tire and what size?

I'll be installing Toyo GSI-6 255/70R18

 

[Trickster]

Online shopping now, watching this thread.
Trying to figure out sizing vs pricing. 17”, 18”, 20’s?
Heck if I could find some Rubi or Mojave take offs
around here I would be all in on that.

 

[kevman65]

If I lived where it was needed, I'd buy a set of steel spare tire wheels and mount snow tires on them. Put them on at start of season, take them off at the end of season.

I have had dedicated snow tires in the past, but our winters here in central Indiana don't justify it any more. I just air down my 35" RT's when we get enough snow to justify, and then air back up once streets are cleared.

 

[Josh00333]

Na, just AT snow rated.

 

[kd1yt]

245 75 17 General Arctic on steel Sport takeoff rims, so I can just change the entire wheel/tire assemblies with the seasons.

I've done the "aggressive all seasons are good enough with 4WD or AWD" in the past but have come back to running dedicated snows. It's not an issue of traction to "go" in a forward direction- it's that weather patterns actually seem to be bringing more sleet, freezing rain, etc., and dedicated snow tires stop and steer better than any all season I've ever driven. If they keep me out of one fender bender with someone driving like a fool, they have paid for themselves in saved deductible, inconvenience, and keeping my vehicle unmarred (I'd rather have never-needed-bodywork than even the best bodywork)

 

[Puttyandnapalm]

Online shopping now, watching this thread.
Trying to figure out sizing vs pricing. 17”, 18”, 20’s?
Heck if I could find some Rubi or Mojave take offs
around here I would be all in on that.

Generally the overland 18s are cheaper than the rubi or Mojave…. And the sports even less than that.

245 75 17 General Arctic on steel Sport takeoff rims, so I can just change the entire wheel/tire assemblies with the seasons.

I've done the "aggressive all seasons are good enough with 4WD or AWD" in the past but have come back to running dedicated snows. It's not an issue of traction to "go" in a forward direction- it's that weather patterns actually seem to be bringing more sleet, freezing rain, etc., and dedicated snow tires stop and steer better than any all season I've ever driven. If they keep me out of one fender bender with someone driving like a fool, they have paid for themselves in saved deductible, inconvenience, and keeping my vehicle unmarred (I'd rather have never-needed-bodywork than even the best bodywork)

How do you like the general artics?

 

[kd1yt]

[QUOTE="Puttyandnapalm, post: 799259, member: 23449"

How do you like the general artics?
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They have been good, definitely one of the better winter tires I've run. During 2020 I was barely driving anywhere at all, due to the general 2020 state of disarray... and left them on over the summer of 2020 (which I would ordinarily never do) into the winter of 2020-21, and they didn't melt away running a bit, occasionally, in warmer weather.

PS the winter set that I have are _heavy_ but I think they are Load Range E, "LT" version of the particular model of tire. They're almost comically hefty compared to the OE 245 75 17 Duelers that I'd taken off at one point - though I'd also say the Duelers seemed comically and non-confidence-inspiringly light. Not sure I would go with Load Range E next time, due to both handling them and how they ride. Just put on a set of 285 70 17 Mojave wheels and Falken AT tires which are Load Range C and I would consider the Load Range C a lot more of a sweet spot for this truck. I expect that the Falken ATs would be remarkably good, as all-seasons go, in winter, but I still plan to run my snowtires on steelies for the winter

 

[tjkenck]

Just ordered 4 Hakkapeliitta lt3 studded tires. I’m still on 285/70/17.

I just ordered the same in Montana. Tried to buy locally and the only Nokian shop said they were back ordered 100 days. Meanwhile I had 4 in my Amazon shopping cart. Oh well. Be here Thursday. I have used Nokian in the past on my LR3 and dedicated snowtires make so much difference in places where snow and ice are real problems. Assume the all seasons would have been a challenge. I'm also still on 285/17s.

 

[Kevin_D]

On my AWD sedans I always have dedicated snow tires. I've had the best luck with Blizzaks. I gave up on studded tires a while back, as the only advantage they provide is on ice.
My 4WD trucks have quality A/T (NOT A/S) tires year-round, and I don't normally have any problems. I do carry a set of chains, but that's mostly for use in mountain passes if required.

Kevin

 

[DiscoSlug]

I have used for years on my jeep(s) winter dedicated Blizzak light truck tires, in stock rim and tire size so electronic nannies can do their best work. They also work great in low temp winter conditions where the road is cold and get better grip than an all season would

 

[kd1yt]

On my AWD sedans I always have dedicated snow tires. I've had the best luck with Blizzaks. I gave up on studded tires a while back, as the only advantage they provide is on ice.
My 4WD trucks have quality A/T (NOT A/S) tires year-round, and I don't normally have any problems. I do carry a set of chains, but that's mostly for use in mountain passes if required.

Kevin

I've run studded snowtires and non-studded snow tires, and I really think that with high quality modern snow tires, the advantage of studs is vanishingly small and not worth the expense or noise. Even on ice, the number of studs in contact with the traction patch is really pretty tiny in the scheme of a 5000 lb vehicle, and there's some data that under some conditions, they leave less rubber in contact with the road surface.

For those looking for snows, one make I have found has a really aggressive quality to price ratio is Nordman, which is an affiliated company of Nokia - they basically take recent but retired Nokia design snow tires and build them, under Nokia quality control, in Russia. Even though they are retired Nokia designs, Nokia has been so prominent in snow tire design for so long that a retired Nokia design is still an excellent design. I don't happen to know what they may make or sell in "our" sizes.

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