Does My New Rubicon Have a 2" Lift?

[Cruizer]

When discussing adding the 2" Mopar lift on the Jeep, everyone tells me Rubicons already come with a 2" lift. When I bought the truck, the Jeep next to it definitely had a lift and was on 35" MT's. While I would have rather had that setup, I did not want a black truck and neither did the wife.

Is the 2" Mopar lift available without Fox shocks? Because my truck does not have Fox shocks. The build sheet makes no mention of any lift or even mention springs or shocks. The only suspension parts mentioned are the electric sway bar disconnect and locking diffs. Is there a way to determine if my truck already has a lift? Or, would it have been on the build sheet for sure?

Here's a pic if this helps at all. She's riding on the optional 285/70R17 MT's roughly 33". The first pic almost looks like she's leveled by it's my driveway.

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[Rockabillyroy]

Looks like you've got more space in your wheel well than I had on mine JTR with 33s.

But at the same time, it looks like your lower control arms are pretty level For a 2 inch lift.

Edit: i read that as 'new' to you, but i remembered reading some of the new trucks don't come with the fox shocks.

 

[Orange01z28]

I believe the Rubicon has about 1" over a Sport/Overland/etc

Your truck does not look like it has the Mopar lift

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They do NOT come with a " 2" lift "
But they do sit a bit higher than others in part due to the fender flares sitting higher, etc.

If I measure the front of a Rubicon, from the ground to a certain spot on the headlights, or even the grill, a Rubicon sits about 1" higher than an Overland.
However, at least 0.2" of that is tires.

A 2" lift isn't even a factory option, so no, the factory doesn't do that, so it won't be on a build sheet. If they did offer that as an option, it would show up on the build sheet.
Factory will be stock Rubicon suspension.
The springs are a bit higher rate than something like an Overland so if you put the Rubicon springs under an Overland it may lift the Overland anywhere from 0.75" to a bit over 1" higher than factory for an Overland.
The combination of spring rate and tire size make the Rubicon sit higher than the others, and the fender flares make them LOOK like they are sitting even higher.

We have a Wrangler Rubicon sitting in the garage next to my Overland Gladiator - amazing how much higher the Wrangler seems to sit - but when I measure from the floor to certain body panels on the Wrangler and compare to my Overland JT - they are the same on the front - and my JT sits 1" higher than stock. From the door hinges back, my JT wins because of the rake. Wrangler doesn't have that rake of a truck.

At any rate - Gladiators don't have a 2" lift option unless that got snuck in very recently.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I believe the Rubicon has about 1" over a Sport/Overland/etc

Your truck does not look like it has the Mopar lift

Yeah, that varies a tad, but that's pretty close.

 

[Stlrfan152]

It looks stock to me. The pictures online show the top of the front tire around the height of the top of the jeep logo and the top of the lugs on the back tire around the height of the step. Complete guess from the picture. The rubicons and mojaves do look tall stock mostly because the have the higher front fenders.

 

[Cruizer]

Thank you guys. I would figure if it were a Rubicon option or even extra options it would have shown in the build sheet. I'm pretty sure the one next to it had the Mopar lift.

Now to find out if the Mopar lift voids the warranty. I figure they'll want to install it though in order to keep a warranty. I know dealing with my Mustang it really depends on the dealer and/or service manager.

 

[Barnaby’sdad]

Thank you guys. I would figure if it were a Rubicon option or even extra options it would have shown in the build sheet. I'm pretty sure the one next to it had the Mopar lift.

Now to find out if the Mopar lift voids the warranty. I figure they'll want to install it though in order to keep a warranty. I know dealing with my Mustang it really depends on the dealer and/or service manager.

If you have them install it, it won’t impact your warranty.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Now to find out if the Mopar lift voids the warranty. I figure they'll want to install it though in order to keep a warranty. I know dealing with my Mustang it really depends on the dealer and/or service manager.

I believe MOPAR lift kits are a PW part number. IF they are a PW number, then this applies -
Mopar PW Performance Parts installed by an authorized FCA US LLC dealership are warranted against defects in workmanship or materials for 12 months/12,000 miles for both parts and labor from date of purchase.
Mopar PW Performance Parts sold wholesale to an automotive service facility and installed by a professional technician are warranted against defects in workmanship or materials for 12 months/12,000 miles from date of purchase for parts and up to $150.00 in labor.

Mopar PW Performance Parts sold over-the-counter for vehicle owner or do-it-yourself
installation are warranted against defects in workmanship or materials for 12 months/12,000 miles from date of purchase for parts exchange only. CUSTOMER MUST KEEP ORIGINAL RECEIPT

Most other parts are 2 year warranty, or the remainder of the vehicle's factory warranty, which-ever is longer.

The MOPAR parts will not void warranty on anything else.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you have them install it, it won’t impact your warranty.

Even if you install it, it won't impact the warranty. It will only change how the lift kit is warranted.

 

[Rusty PW]

Stock Rubicon, no lift on it. It has the new oem red shocks on it. If it had the Mopar 2" lift. It would have the Fox shocks.

 

[Barnaby’sdad]

Even if you install it, it won't impact the warranty. It will only change how the lift kit is warranted.

So it’ll impact the warranty.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So it’ll impact the warranty.

No impact on the warranty on the lift kit other than they don't cover labor.
The parts warranty is the same.
It's still 12/12,000 either way.
And it has no impact on the truck's warranty at all.

This was his question -

Now to find out if the Mopar lift voids the warranty.

The answer is no, it does not, no matter who installs it.
It does not void the warranty.

 

[Barnaby’sdad]

No impact on the warranty on the lift kit other than they don't cover labor.
The parts warranty is the same.
It's still 12/12,000 either way.
And it has no impact on the truck's warranty at all.

This was his question -

The answer is no, it does not, no matter who installs it.
It does not void the warranty.

Yes, per Magnuson-Moss. You’re correct. I’m sure that no one ever had a headache at a dealer because of something they installed though.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yes, per Magnuson-Moss. You’re correct. I’m sure that no one ever had a headache at a dealer because of something they installed though.

Dealerships warrant what they install, and in this case with PW parts, MOPAR is very clear - parts AND labor are covered. So even if you go to a different dealership, because the PW parts were installed by a dealer, then another dealer can cover parts and labor for those parts because FCA will reimburse them.
MOPAR parts installed by dealers can't impact the warranty in any way because they are approved factory parts installed by MOPAR techs.

That "act" has nothing to do with it because they are factory approved parts sold through MOPAR dealers.
It's like the Group 19 parts of the 60s, 70s - they may have been made by Edelbrock or come other company, but because they were sold through dealers and listed in factory literature, the installation of any such parts was fully covered. Swap in a Group 19 cam - you have full warranty. R4B aluminum intake and Holley 3bbl carb - full factory warranty on parts and vehicle.
So nothing has changed in that respect. That was even before the act existed.

Thank you guys. I would figure if it were a Rubicon option or even extra options it would have shown in the build sheet. I'm pretty sure the one next to it had the Mopar lift.

Now to find out if the Mopar lift voids the warranty. I figure they'll want to install it though in order to keep a warranty. I know dealing with my Mustang it really depends on the dealer and/or service manager.

For other mods - yeah, you go getting radical on it, and some will balk or send you back home with it. But MOPAR is extremely clear with the warranty of any MOPAR parts. It varies with the part prefix - lift kits are "performance parts" so it's a bit different that if you installed a MOPAR trailer brake controller as it is fully warranted for 2 years, parts and labor - unless your truck has 30 months left of the factory warranty - then that trailer brake controller inherits the truck warranty because it's longer.
performance parts are 1 year.

Attached is the actual MOPAR warranty. There is a section for each type of part. It's quite clear. Keep a copy in your truck for those moron dealers who will try to treat you like you don't know squat, or for those moron dealers who themselves don't know how to read contracts and warranties.

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