Electric Jeep in 2022

[CJ_Scottie]

I knew it would happen eventually! Any thoughts on the electric jeep?

Jeep Wrangler 4xe will be name of PHEV Hybrid Electric model. Coming late 2020
First look at the Jeep Wrangler 4XE hybrid electric PHEV in the flesh!

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[Mr._Bill]

I'm looking forward to an electric Wrangler to replace my 2013 Nissan Leaf.

 

[surge101]

Great! I don't really see any disadvantages to everything moving to electric aside from the current cost to produce them (which falls back on price for us) and of course, we have to factor in how much electricity the cars consume and how that electricity is produced.(because that may impact the environment more at this point than our gas burning cars) But I'm all for saving money and saving the environment, without losing (most likely gaining) performance in a vehicle, so I think in the long run these will be to much benefit to everyone.

 

[RIPLER]

I love how everyone thinks electric vehicles are so environmentally friendly. Electricity still needs to be produced and mining for the minerals needed to make the batteries is not environmentally friendly. In fact companies are destroying the ocean while mining for minerals.

 

[JRobes]

I would still get anxiety over the fact that it's tough to recharge the batteries, at least compared to gas. Need more range? No problem; carry a couple extra jerry cans, which you can also refill and bring to the stranded vehicle if necessary. If you run out of juice on the trail or in the middle of nowhere... then what? Hope triple A has some offroad tow-trucks or you have solar panels fitted to your roof and you didn't get stuck in a shaded area.

This all being said, I think the instant low-end torque electric motors make are IDEAL for rock-crawling, and silently sneaking through a tough trail (aside from vehicle creaks and belly scrapes) would be pretty cool.

 

[sass JT]

I would still get anxiety over the fact that it's tough to recharge the batteries, at least compared to gas. Need more range? No problem; carry a couple extra jerry cans, which you can also refill and bring to the stranded vehicle if necessary. If you run out of juice on the trail or in the middle of nowhere... then what? Hope triple A has some offroad tow-trucks or you have solar panels fitted to your roof and you didn't get stuck in a shaded area.

This all being said, I think the instant low-end torque electric motors make are IDEAL for rock-crawling, and silently sneaking through a tough trail (aside from vehicle creaks and belly scrapes) would be pretty cool.

I would just pull a electric generator with me lmao

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I would just pull a electric generator with me lmao

Now that's funny.

But seriously, the point was brought up about batteries, etc. - the cost but to me, the environmental factors and safety.
Maybe by then it will be better, but for now - the materials needed - come from? Are they safe for the earth? So the rare earth stuff for the electronics and other fun stuff - from China because we can't mine them without screwing up the environment. So we increase our dependency on the EU and China, especially the latter.

Don't get me wrong - as a guy who burns through a lot of gas powering a high HP dual-quad carb'd engine with no emissions controls in place, I respect the thought of making changes and am not against electric, but it bothers me when we in this country talk about how SAVE it all is, how wonderful it is we're not polluting the air here - ah, but it is being polluted, just not here.
And disposal of all of those batteries?
Did you know - the big wind turbines out there - the towers can be recycled, but the blades, should one be damaged or replaced for any reason, upgrades, whatever? They lay around on the ground. Why? "not economically feasible to recycle them". So there we go. Wonderful, wind energy, clean, renewable - but............
Just playing devil's advocate, I guess, or playing attorney where you believe your client is guilty as heck but you still have to argue for them, or you are part of a debate team and must take a position the opposite of your beliefs.........

Electric is in, cool, neat, safe, clean, all that............. is it? Ask emergency personnel, first responders........ ask techs, and in the future when the batteries can no longer hold a charge - what will it cost - YOU, and the environment - or the government?

Just points to think about.
When it's proven these things are absolutely better for the planet, and the RANGE is improved and safety taken care of - I'm interested.

 

[Mr._Bill]

I love how everyone thinks electric vehicles are so environmentally friendly. Electricity still needs to be produced and mining for the minerals needed to make the batteries is not environmentally friendly. In fact companies are destroying the ocean while mining for minerals.

I know electric cars are not really better than current options, environmentally, but are cheaper to drive and maintain. I usually charge in the middle of the night, when the generators are running anyway and demand is low, so environmental impact is somewhat minimized. I bought mine used, and got the main battery replaced under warranty, so I got a better deal than many choosing electric. I've replaced the 12 volt battery, tires, and brake fluid, but it hasn't needed any other major maintenance in almost five years.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I know electric cars are not really better than current options, environmentally, but are cheaper to drive and maintain. I usually charge in the middle of the night, when the generators are running anyway and demand is low, so environmental impact is somewhat minimized. I bought mine used, and got the main battery replaced under warranty, so I got a better deal than many choosing electric. I've replaced the 12 volt battery, tires, and brake fluid, but it hasn't needed any other major maintenance in almost five years.

And once the government subsidies go away?

I know that since they don't use gas and pay road use taxes in that way, watch out for the license fees in the future. All of the taxes you'd normally pay like we do with gas will be due when you license the electric car.

Governments are realizing that electric car drivers aren't paying for road maintenance - at least in Iowa, so they are going to be smacked with huge license fees to make up for it.

 

[ALVagabond]

And once the government subsidies go away?

I know that since they don't use gas and pay road use taxes in that way, watch out for the license fees in the future. All of the taxes you'd normally pay like we do with gas will be due when you license the electric car.

Governments are realizing that electric car drivers aren't paying for road maintenance - at least in Iowa, so they are going to be smacked with huge license fees to make up for it.

This year, Alabama increased the "flat fee" they charge when you pay for your tags on hybrid and electric vehicles. It's to offset the fact you don't pay as much in gas taxes.

 

[Gladiator4Runner]

Electricity is free and batteries last forever and plastics do not use oil to make them so it's an awesome idea!

 

[Rex3rd]

Electricity is free and batteries last forever and plastics do not use oil to make them so it's an awesome idea!

And when you run out of juice and there's no charging stations your screwed . Imagine being 100 miles away from civilization and your battery dies...that's a long hike back

 

[RIPLER]

More issues that I have with EVs.

Who is going to pay for the infrastructure upgrades to add charging stations needed to support EV, us the taxpayers.

When I buy gas, there is a tax added to the cost for road maintenance and improvements, ICE drivers are paying for the roads they are driving on.

Here's an interesting read. https://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/elon-musk-s-dirty-secret/90282

 

[Oilburner]

Until we have this sort of battery technology all-electric vehicles are not practical for me:

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Until we have this sort of battery technology all-electric vehicles are not practical for me:

I may hold out for warp capability.

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