EPA MPG ratings released for Wrangler Diesel

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Thanks for alerting us @Oilburner.

Wrangler EcoDiesel MPG officially rated 22 city / 29 highway / 25 combined.

just a comparison. Based on this chart I anticipate the gladiator to be rated at 29 hwy, 21 city and 24 combined.

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Thanks for alerting us @Oilburner

Wrangler EcoDiesel MPG officially rated 22 city / 29 highway / 25 combined.

Just a comparison. Based on this chart I anticipate the gladiator to be rated at 29 mpg, 21 city and 24 combined.

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There's a reason there's a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT for Gen 2 EcoDisel Owners, the engine is garbage. Now, before all you Keyboard Cowboys jump all over me, hear me out. This is the THIRD GENERATION EcoDIEsel, now this COULD BE the very best engine ever built by FCA/Jeep, however, it could also be the ABSOLUTE WORST engine ever put into a Jeep. BUT nobody will know for sure until they're on the roads for a couple years and they really get used and we see what happens. Yeah, there's an insane amount of torque, and yeah they're much better on fuel, but there's all kinds of added costs and maintenance that people don't think about, not to mention in the super cold parts of the country/world like DETROIT, MICHIGAN where it was about 10 degrees out today. Now, I've dealt with EcoDiesel on and off with a few friends and some love it, some hate it. Time will only tell, and if you've got the guts to risk spending 65K+ on a loaded Gladiator with a new version of a engine, good for you. But it'll be interesting to see what happens. Also, I hate the Pentastar, its a great engine, plant of power, good on fuel and pretty reliable with all the other vehicles that have had it, but its JUST TO MILD AND BORING. ITS LIKE DRIVING A VACUUM CLEANER. 6.4L Swap is the #1 upgrade we will do with out #MallKrawlin' Gladiator. Anyway, had to pipe in.

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And before you say anything else, we towed NEARLY 8,000 POUNDS to Panama City Beach, Florida and back from Detroit with NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. Obviously that's 1,000 over the limit, also we had a RACING LAWN MOWER in the bed and 3 adult men.

http://GladiatorGang.com/Review if you want to see some crazy stuff we've done.

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There's a reason there's a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT for Gen 2 EcoDisel Owners, the engine is garbage. Now, before all you Keyboard Cowboys jump all over me, hear me out. This is the THIRD GENERATION EcoDIEsel, now this COULD BE the very best engine ever built by FCA/Jeep, however, it could also be the ABSOLUTE WORST engine ever put into a Jeep. BUT nobody will know for sure until they're on the roads for a couple years and they really get used and we see what happens. Yeah, there's an insane amount of torque, and yeah they're much better on fuel, but there's all kinds of added costs and maintenance that people don't think about, not to mention in the super cold parts of the country/world like DETROIT, MICHIGAN where it was about 10 degrees out today. Now, I've dealt with EcoDiesel on and off with a few friends and some love it, some hate it. Time will only tell, and if you've got the guts to risk spending 65K+ on a loaded Gladiator with a new version of a engine, good for you. But it'll be interesting to see what happens. Also, I hate the Pentastar, its a great engine, plant of power, good on fuel and pretty reliable with all the other vehicles that have had it, but its JUST TO MILD AND BORING. ITS LIKE DRIVING A VACUUM CLEANER. 6.4L Swap is the #1 upgrade we will do with out #MallKrawlin' Gladiator. Anyway, had to pipe in.

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My wife has a diesel in her Land Rover Discovery. It has been a great engine and is smooth as butter but the extra maintenance costs are out of control not to mention the additional purchase cost. I believe this will be true for the Gladiator as well. Yes the fuel mileage is awesome but the diesels have a long way to go before they actually provide a cost benefit. I personally like the V6 but agree a V8 would be a cool choice...maybe bring back the 318.
 
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Thanks for alerting us @Oilburner.

Wrangler EcoDiesel MPG officially rated 22 city / 29 highway / 25 combined.

just a comparison. Based on this chart I anticipate the gladiator to be rated at 29 hwy, 21 city and 24 combined.

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Exactly par for the course. 24 MPG combined is what diesel Jeeps were getting 15 years ago. That's about what you can expect from any midsize diesel 4x4.

So,

1,500 miles per month / 24 miles per gallon = 62.5 gallons per month @ $3.05/gallon = $190.63 per month

1,500 miles per month / 19 miles per gallon = 78.9 gallons per month @ $2.45/gallon = $193.31 per month

Difference is $2.68 per month. At $6,000 (diesel option plus required automatic trans. upgrade) it would take 186 years to break even on the money spent.

*Fuel prices based on national averages per the EIA. Years to break even point doesn't consider added diesel maintenance and repair costs.
 

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Thanks for alerting us @Oilburner.

Wrangler EcoDiesel MPG officially rated 22 city / 29 highway / 25 combined.

just a comparison. Based on this chart I anticipate the gladiator to be rated at 29 hwy, 21 city and 24 combined.

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I peaked recently at 21.5, then it dropped a tad lately, but thats first 1k miles on my Rubicon JL for comparison
 
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Didn't buy my gladiator for gas mileage. I bought it to be able to crawl over traffic jams if need be.

I couldn’t care less about fuel mileage day to day. It’s the extended trips off-road and torque to drive 38s with authority. VS a Hemi swap its $20k cheaper. The only reason I posted the mileage is because that means wranglers are now shipping with them. I’ll make my decision after a test drive
 
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I have had diesel’s my whole adult life...

I find it amusing that people push the notion that diesels aren’t cost effective... who in the HELL ever buys a diesel to save money?? They/we buy diesels for the power/torque and the range ...discussing anything else is just stupid.

BTW my wife drives an Ecodiesel Grand Cherokee and loves it. Yes it had some issues but it is the vehicle we take on longer trips as we get almost 30 mpg on the highway which just means we stop when we want to not when the suv says so.

The only reason I didn’t wait to get the diesel in this truck is that we intend to drive it into Mexico and possibly Central America where ULSD is not commonly available. That’s the only reason.
 

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it’s been a while since I posted, and if I'm not mistaken weren’t you the guy that was going to have a twin turbo EcoDiesel build on 42s by Sema 2019? But then it didn’t happen and now you don’t like the EcoDiesel ?

You run that Gladiator Gang Instagram page right ?


There's a reason there's a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT for Gen 2 EcoDisel Owners, the engine is garbage. Now, before all you Keyboard Cowboys jump all over me, hear me out. This is the THIRD GENERATION EcoDIEsel, now this COULD BE the very best engine ever built by FCA/Jeep, however, it could also be the ABSOLUTE WORST engine ever put into a Jeep. BUT nobody will know for sure until they're on the roads for a couple years and they really get used and we see what happens. Yeah, there's an insane amount of torque, and yeah they're much better on fuel, but there's all kinds of added costs and maintenance that people don't think about, not to mention in the super cold parts of the country/world like DETROIT, MICHIGAN where it was about 10 degrees out today. Now, I've dealt with EcoDiesel on and off with a few friends and some love it, some hate it. Time will only tell, and if you've got the guts to risk spending 65K+ on a loaded Gladiator with a new version of a engine, good for you. But it'll be interesting to see what happens. Also, I hate the Pentastar, its a great engine, plant of power, good on fuel and pretty reliable with all the other vehicles that have had it, but its JUST TO MILD AND BORING. ITS LIKE DRIVING A VACUUM CLEANER. 6.4L Swap is the #1 upgrade we will do with out #MallKrawlin' Gladiator. Anyway, had to pipe in.

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Imagine the mileage without all the emissions choking it up. Straight pipe and intake on my 08 duramax gained me 6 mpg... if I could keep my foot out of it.
 

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