First responder - Chrysler/Jeep/Ram drops Nurses.

[Sazabi19]

So, I’m retired military and 100% disabled from combat. I don’t expect a discount from anyone. I honestly feel weird when people say thank you for your service. If they offer it, cool. I chose that profession. Nobody owes anyone a discount. Besides, you save a ton more by giving Tread Lightly $100 and getting 2 vehicles a year at 1% below invoice.

I always felt this was really weird for people to say and now it's as synonymous and passing as "hi" to me. It's just an obligatory thing people add into conversation that means nothing. My dad is a retired marine of 20 years and I'm very proud of him for it. If I come across someone else who is a retired marine I say "Oo-Rah! Devil Dog!" and they get it. If it's someone else I let them know my father is a retired marine and acknowledge their service in an inferior branch (jokingly) by giving them shit for it lol. I'd love to go in but can't for medical reasons. I just tried this last May for the final time, and they still said no

My dad hates the random recognition too and feels it's no genuine. While he doesn't expect anything for free, as you don't either (the right way to go about it) he's appreciative when people give him some sort of discount. There's never any random "Karen" temper tantrum thrown like this because he felt he was entitled to something others that were in a related field got.

So, as to not be patronizing to you I won't say "thank you for your service", but I'll say, I see you and I recognize what you've done, it's appreciated (and maybe envied a bit).

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[WhiteJT8541]

As a first responder and a military veteran, I do not ask for or expect a discount for anything. I tend to shop at a lot of local mom and pop stores that offer discounts to first responders and military and very rarely take one. I even refuse free coffee or meals when in uniform. I am a customer and the business I am frequenting is trying to turn a profit to pay their bills as well as their employees. Especially at a time like this when things are hard for many small business owners. Unless it's a major purchase, like from Lowes, HD, etc. I do not even mention it. I chose the career field just like someone chose to be a doctor or a nurse. Nothing special about what I did or am doing. And the entitlement of individuals today about not getting discount on a $5 cup of coffee or $25 meal is ridiculous. While I am sure there are veterans on a fixed income that can benefit from that extra $2 in their pocket, I am not one of them. After 5 years in the Middle East I am thankful for running water, a roof over my head and my kick ass Jeep Gladiator. No offense to anyone that feels differently. We can agree to disagree.

 

[noside85]

not meant to ruffle feathers or anything, i just wanted to let others know that there is more a risk than some people think. i guess i tend to try to put myself in other's situations too much, or play devils advocate if you will.

i work at the hospital but do not ask for handouts, i find it awkward. i did get some free mcdonalds when they had the offering though. i work hard for everything i have, and if i want something i just work harder for it.

while people sign up for certain jobs, they assume the risks involved. there are times when the situation is never before seen, or at least not in our generation, and sometimes it seems we are fumbling in areas we shouldn't, or that the job added more complexity than anticipated. i can understand the whole "you signed up for it" argument but there's a line, such as our people in the military. you can't say, "sorry about everything that happened but you DID sign up for it..." just because you sign up for it doesn't mean it shouldn't/can't get better, such as PPE shortages for healthcare workers, better VA support, or sneeze guards for cashiers.

at the end of the day i just wanna play with my jeep

 

[Fdisker]

yeah Im a nurse and my Wife is a LEO and even though I bought mine in Nov 2019 I was surprised there was no rebate or discount no nothing but I wanted the Gladiator so I dealt with it

 

[bshillam]

My point was that prior to July 1st Jeep did include nurses in the program. I felt it was a good way to show support for that field. My wife is a nurse. I am not. Jeep pulled that from the first responder rebate as of July 1st. And, lets be real who plans for a pandemic. When in your life or anyones here on this board has there been a pandemic. I for one wouldn't say that anyone in health care signed up for that.
They train on how to properly care for their patients. How to protect themselves and their patients. But train on the potential of dealing with 4,315,709 positive test Covid patients? Or 149,398 deaths?

I certainly don't have a position of entitlement, I have worked for what I have wanted from 10, bought my first car before I could legally drive it. Using terms like that are presumptuous.

 

[JKABBQ]

I had worked both as a RN and a volunteer (retired) Firefighter for 24yrs. I wrote a term paper once while in nursing school regarding ethics in firefighting and the first responder profession. All the literature that I found spoke of the ethical nature of accepting gifts while on the job and in some capacity even while off duty. I chose this subject at the time to write about because training from the city I worked as a firefighter in issued ethics protocols regarding how to deal with the public etc when they offer us gifts, free food, coffee/drinks while at a fire scene or for that matter dropping them off at the firehall. In either case, that always left an impression on me that we weren’t special because of what we did and while grateful for the token of appreciation, it was our duty and job to do what we did.

As for the discount, I understand that some would want one. I don’t believe and have never thought RNs or anyone in the medical field are first responders. If businesses want to give a group of people discounts, it’s their choice to do so or not. However unless I’m mistaken, these “discounts” people speak of...if these stack on top of whatever below invoice pricing that one gets then that’s a great advantage. If they don’t and are usually a fixed number like $1000 off and not to be used in conjunction with any other price reductions...I don’t see the value in having nurses added to a list other than virtue signaling by FCA.

I would love to know about that...where you get your final below invoice price...then suddenly drop the bomb, “oh btw can I have my further discount added to that?”

 

[Jeeperjamie]

They could of gave it to you if they wanted to. I've never been in the Military but Hendricks added the Military Discount into mine and have been since they started offering it a few years back. Not sure how they are able to do it or anything but I didn't know until signing the paperwork that they added it in. It's the third time I've bought a vehicle from them and got the military discount.

 

[bshillam]

I had worked both as a RN and a volunteer (retired) Firefighter for 24yrs. I wrote a term paper once while in nursing school regarding ethics in firefighting and the first responder profession. All the literature that I found spoke of the ethical nature of accepting gifts while on the job and in some capacity even while off duty. I chose this subject at the time to write about because training from the city I worked as a firefighter in issued ethics protocols regarding how to deal with the public etc when they offer us gifts, free food, coffee/drinks while at a fire scene or for that matter dropping them off at the firehall. In either case, that always left an impression on me that we weren’t special because of what we did and while grateful for the token of appreciation, it was our duty and job to do what we did.

As for the discount, I understand that some would want one. I don’t believe and have never thought RNs or anyone in the medical field are first responders. If businesses want to give a group of people discounts, it’s their choice to do so or not. However unless I’m mistaken, these “discounts” people speak of...if these stack on top of whatever below invoice pricing that one gets then that’s a great advantage. If they don’t and are usually a fixed number like $1000 off and not to be used in conjunction with any other price reductions...I don’t see the value in having nurses added to a list other than virtue signaling by FCA.

I would love to know about that...where you get your final below invoice price...then suddenly drop the bomb, “oh btw can I have my further discount added to that?”

On Friday the sales person said it was there when I was ready to take delivery. However the Jeep had a grounding issue and could not take delivery, they wouldn't let me sign paperwork until they fixed it. When I returned to take delivery they informed me it was no longer being offered. Checked the website and sure enough Jeep removed nurses on July 1st. It was more the dealerships mistake more than anything. They admitted they made a mistake I bought the vehicle regardless. I felt though it was mistake on FCA/Jeeps part. Thats why I am speaking up.

 

[WhiteJT8541]

My point was that prior to July 1st Jeep did include nurses in the program. I felt it was a good way to show support for that field. My wife is a nurse. I am not. Jeep pulled that from the first responder rebate as of July 1st. And, lets be real who plans for a pandemic. When in your life or anyones here on this board has there been a pandemic. I for one wouldn't say that anyone in health care signed up for that.
They train on how to properly care for their patients. How to protect themselves and their patients. But train on the potential of dealing with 4,315,709 positive test Covid patients? Or 149,398 deaths?

I certainly don't have a position of entitlement, I have worked for what I have wanted from 10, bought my first car before I could legally drive it. Using terms like that are presumptuous.

sorry if I offended you. I was not calling you entitled. I don’t even know you. So yes that would have been presumptuous.

 

[TennesseePA]

As an EDP perhaps you do not get a substantial amount of potential COVID related care, others at other locations may. The people that get more potential exposure in the ED are the respiratory therapists, RNs, imaging techs, and nurse techs that have to swab, triage, image, clean, or care for these patients. These things take much more time than talking to the patient for a few minutes and putting orders in back at your desk or telling the RNs, though both are essential. RNs and others upstairs spend even more time with these patients tending to their every need as well.

I guess that I did not make my point the way that I intended to. We do not see a whole lot of patients with COVID pass through the ED. It is the workers on the floor like you mentioned in your post that have the greatest potential for exposure. And given the typical disease progression most of the people on the floor are direct admits from other facilities and they do not pass through the ED. So I will call myself out here before anyone else does many routine direct admits from other facilities will be transported via non-emergent EMS channels. So in that scenario EMS will have increased potential for exposure.

But that doesn't change my original point that as providers and support staff in a hospital setting we are not "first responders" and should not be treated as such. If they want to offer an alternative discount I'm OK with that concept.

 

[bshillam]

Update - FCA called me today with a response to my concern. First I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. He was sincere and appreciative that I bought the Gladiator and continue to support the brand. Without disclosing just what he did, lets say he stepped up and really showed his appreciation and took great care of my family. For this, he's already earned my next business purchase.
I felt our conversation was more collaborative and in support of the brand we love, such an American icon. Gave him some great marketing ideas and my interest in furthering that cause.

 

[Sazabi19]

Update - FCA called me today with a response to my concern. First I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. He was sincere and appreciative that I bought the Gladiator and continue to support the brand. Without disclosing just what he did, lets say he stepped up and really showed his appreciation and took great care of my family. For this, he's already earned my next business purchase.
I felt our conversation was more collaborative and in support of the brand we love, such an American icon. Gave him some great marketing ideas and my interest in furthering that cause.

Great to hear. Glad someone reached out. A little customer service can go a long way.

 

[ArmyJeepGuy666]

OP just sounds upset they didn't buy it sooner.

Oh and "front lines"? You have no idea what those words mean until you find yourself in the middle of a warzone, in a hostile country, getting shot at/ mortared/blown up day and night. If you think being a nurse right now is bad...try being a nurse/combat medic IN A WARZONE. Nonetheless, even as a combat veteran I never expect to get a discount. If they have it, cool. Am I going to go out of my way to get one, or make it known that I've served in combat...No. Do not be one of those entitled individuals. No one is entitled to anything.

Let’s get the definition right. Hospital workers are NOT “First Responders.” I am a healthcare provider in an ED and I am not a first responder. First responders are police, firefighters and EMS. They respond FIRST and then bring them to me at the ED. So if you want to create a new discount for “front line healthcare worker” or just healthcare worker I’m OK with that. But please do not mistake what I do with what real first responders do as it is a completely different role. And I will add that since all of this crap started I have not had even a single COVID patient brought to my ED via EMS. We have had some in our ED but they have been normal transport from other facilities or family and even self transport. So, at least in my experience, first responders haven’t had much to do as far as direct COVID related care. Even if you come to my ED and you are a suspected COVID case you get punted out of the ED and sent back home, up to the floor or unit depending on severity so even as an ED provider I don’t have a ton of direct COVID related care.

Remember: feet and knees together.

 

[HorneyBadger]

Glad to hear FCA took care of a real estate and yacht broker for bitchin about no break for health care workers. Remember Karma!

 

[bshillam]

Glad to hear FCA took care of a real estate and yacht broker for bitchin about no break for health care workers. Remember Karma!

Read the entire post before you make such a presumptuous statement. I am not, haven't claimed to be. This purchase was completed by my wife and I. My wife is.

Also as a side note, prior to July 1st, as earlier indicated, FCA was including health care workers in the rebate.

I have a 30 plus year history with Jeeps, have supported the brand and FCA through multiple purchases. I will continue to do such because of what the Wrangler/Gladiator line brings to the market place. Something no other vehicle does, even after Bronco enters the stage. Jeep will have something that Ford does not.

In addition, I have now included my phone number in my signature. If you wish to discuss this thread with me personally please feel free to do such. I am a firm believer that Karma, good will, the energy of our universe come back to us. I for one choose to embrace positive feelings, and outcomes for those in my life.

All the best, Bryrick.

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