Gladiator vs Tacoma IMO

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Three recalls on my 2018 Tacoma Pro, one of them potentially dangerous. Many here have never had their Gladiator in the shop other than routine maintenance. It would be nice if the world was black and white, but it isn’t.
To be fair, Toyota is super jumpy about recalls and issues them much faster than most.

And most of us haven't had our trucks long enough to really show issues. I'd have no worries owning a Toyota for 200k, I do not have the same faith in my JT.

 

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To be fair, Toyota is super jumpy about recalls and issues them much faster than most.

And most of us haven't had our trucks long enough to really show issues. I'd have no worries owning a Toyota for 200k, I do not have the same faith in my JT.
I guess we'll see. I usually sell or trade my trucks at four or five years, and if Jeep builds a Gladiator hybrid or PHEV, I'll get that when available.
 

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To be fair, Toyota is super jumpy about recalls and issues them much faster than most.

And most of us haven't had our trucks long enough to really show issues. I'd have no worries owning a Toyota for 200k, I do not have the same faith in my JT.
Toyota is slow as possible with everything they do to Tacoma's. UUmmm drum brakes, transmission since 2016 that is just a giant pile of shit ( hated mine, it was upsetting to drive due to the transmission ). My 2009 Tacoma had more issues than any of my Jeeps, and it was always a fight with the dealers.

Value wise, sure they're good but have you traded in a top trim Jeep product before? The value is just as good.
 

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Toyota is slow as possible with everything they do to Tacoma's. UUmmm drum brakes, transmission since 2016 that is just a giant pile of shit ( hated mine, it was upsetting to drive due to the transmission ). My 2009 Tacoma had more issues than any of my Jeeps, and it was always a fight with the dealers.

Value wise, sure they're good but have you traded in a top trim Jeep product before? The value is just as good.
Why is drum brakes the thing everyone brings up like it's some huge gotcha? Do you actually understand how little the rear brakes do on a pickup and how completely unnecessary rear discs are on these trucks? The only reason they have them is people like you think they're of value and expect them to be there.
 

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Toyota is slow as possible with everything they do to Tacoma's. UUmmm drum brakes, transmission since 2016 that is just a giant pile of shit ( hated mine, it was upsetting to drive due to the transmission ). My 2009 Tacoma had more issues than any of my Jeeps, and it was always a fight with the dealers.

Value wise, sure they're good but have you traded in a top trim Jeep product before? The value is just as good.
When equivalent trim Tacos were ~10K cheaper than a jeep that value argument made more sense. But now they are similarly priced, I'm not seeing it.
 


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Why is drum brakes the thing everyone brings up like it's some huge gotcha? Do you actually understand how little the rear brakes do on a pickup and how completely unnecessary rear discs are on these trucks? The only reason they have them is people like you think they're of value and expect them to be there.
Drum brakes suck, but you're correct they do the job just fine on a midsize truck.

Let's talk about the Tacoma "C" channel frame that flops like a wet noodle when you load it.
 

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Why is drum brakes the thing everyone brings up like it's some huge gotcha? Do you actually understand how little the rear brakes do on a pickup and how completely unnecessary rear discs are on these trucks? The only reason they have them is people like you think they're of value and expect them to be there.
I've been on trails with more than one Tacoma with drums jammed with mud causing a lot of headaches. Not sure if this was a build up over time or not, but I can be certain I've never seen this kind of locked up wheel with discs due to trail conditions. Real world experience in this case.
 

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I've been on trails with more than one Tacoma with drums jammed with mud causing a lot of headaches. Not sure if this was a build up over time or not, but I can be certain I've never seen this kind of locked up wheel with discs due to trail conditions. Real world experience in this case.
I've seen disks get rocks sucked into the pad, and we had to strip it apart on the trail. But that's pretty rare.
 

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Not sure what I posted way back at the start of this thread.... I've had 2 Tacoma's, a 2009 reg cab with a full OME suspension setup and a 2018 access cab TRD Off-road. The auto transmission in my 2018 was a very upsetting pile of sh!t at best. The Jeep 8spd is the smoothest automatic I can think of based on my different rigs.

I still like the Tacoma's though, I hope the next gen is an actual improvement/re-designe, not just a BS dummy facelift and a crap powertrain. If so I will consider it next round.

Before taking delivery of my 2018 I had to drive 3 Tacoma's to get one that didn't have the barely notable vibration from the drivetrain, this is total shit - it is pathetic that this same issue from 2005 is STILL occurring on new 2022 Tacoma's.
 

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I've seen disks get rocks sucked into the pad, and we had to strip it apart on the trail. But that's pretty rare.
I've had this occur, but what didn't happen was a full lock up of the rear end due to the brakes taking a full on shit in their own pants! Ruined a disc or a few, but that's not so bad in comparison.
 


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Well, I came over from a 2021 TRD Pro Tacoma. I loved it except for the long drives. Until then, I had never even considered Jeeps (at all). I cut my teeth in high school and beyond with FJ-40's. Had one in high school and one later in life. I always enjoyed the reliability of Toyota's. But, my wife wanted to trade her 2018 4Runner for a Gladiator. She picked out a Gladiator Overland. I made a trip for work (put 2K miles on it) and it was much more comfortable for me than the Tacoma. A bit noisier, but more comfortable. So, a week after the trip while visiting the dealer I saw a Rubicon on the lot and traded the Taco. The Rubicon is much better on the trails I travel.
 

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78,000 trouble free miles so far and I use my JT as a truck (read: I am not easy on it).

I’ve owned Toyota trucks and cars, they are good But they still have their issues like any other vehicle.

I can tell you for a fact that no Toyota truck would be doing what I’ve done with my 2020 (purchased October 2019). I’ve just driven 1200 miles hauling a 14 foot enclosed trailer loaded with up to 7000 lbs (600 mile trip) no load less than 5000 lbs in high winds, rain, 104* heat and cruised at 65-70mph (except in 60 MPH side wind). 10 mpg average… my jeep is on 3.5” RE lift with back end sagged to the bump stops (RE extended bump stops off.; No, I am not happy with that and the shop was supposed to put HD rear overland rated springs on the JT). I monitored all the vitals like a hawk and the Jeep did the job flawlessly (I’ve owned diesel one ton trucks and hauled some heavy stuff for many years).

🤔 oh and Toyota Trucks will never do it with the top down either! 🤣

OH, and I’m on 37’s, 4:10 gears, with JB RTT XXL on full height rack (250lbs).

loved it when I’d pass any newer Yota truck, Tacoma or Tundra as they struggled with their lighter (most times much lighter) load up hills on the interstate.

No, IMOP with real world experience in both trucks, the Toyota Tacoma does not hold a candle to the JT. I don’t even think it is fair to Toyota to compare it to the JT.

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