Jeep Grand Wagoneer and Wrangler 4xe Reveal

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Who else watched the reveal this morning? I am thinking the Grand Wagoneer is going to push 6 figures perhaps?!?!?! Regardless, I am excited for both new vehicles, they looked great!





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Who else watched the reveal this morning? I am thinking the Grand Wagoneer is going to push 6 figures perhaps?!?!?! Regardless, I am excited for both new vehicles, they looked great!
Watching now.

Gladiator 4XE was the only thing holding me back from ordering, but they were taking their time announcing stuff... so I guess I'll burn petrol for another 20 years. Exciting stuff though. (c:

375 HP, 470 lb/ft of torque for the Rubicon Wrangler? woof.

Grand Wagoneer will DEFINITELY be 6 figures. Massage seating? Yah, everything about that is going to be for the entrepreneur/influencer making more money than they know how to spend.
 
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A 2020 Range Rover starts around $90k, 2020 GMC Yukon Denali starts around $70k, the Wagoneer will be somewhere in between imo. Fully loaded could easily too 6 figures though.
 

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I am underwhelmed. Mis managed brand- they should’ve had that 3 row 15 ago/ and it looks plainly the same as all other massive yawn mobiles.... at least from those press release pics.
Hell I’d be more impressed with a ram truck disguised as a wagoneer with a cap on the bed and a bench seat it’s its bed...
 

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I am underwhelmed. Mis managed brand- they should’ve had that 3 row 15 ago/ and it looks plainly the same as all other massive yawn mobiles.... at least from those press release pics.
Hell I’d be more impressed with a ram truck disguised as a wagoneer with a cap on the bed and a bench seat it’s its bed...
It’s not for everyone, just like the Gladiator isn’t for everyone. It will be well out of my price range, but for the upper middle class soccer moms and dads it will be another option to the Range Rover, Denali, Escalade in the large luxury SUV market.
 

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So is it Trail Rated. Lol
In the reveal he says : "If there were a road trip, Jeep would be the Rubicon Trail, Wagoneer a beautiful snowy road in the Rockies" at minute 18:10 in video .
 

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And the Grand Wagoneer will be somewhere between 75;80K to 100K, depending on the options.
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The GW is targeting luxury SUV purchasers. Denali, Escalade, Range Rover, Lexus LX. And if that interior is accurate it has all the others beat. All those displays just looks awesome.

Any bets on what motor options are in the GW? I'm betting 5.7 Hemi as base and something close to 500 HP as optional. Possibly a detuned hellcat motor or the 6.4 SRT.
 

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The GW is targeting luxury SUV purchasers. Denali, Escalade, Range Rover, Lexus LX. And if that interior is accurate it has all the others beat. All those displays just looks awesome.

Any bets on what motor options are in the GW? I'm betting 5.7 Hemi as base and something close to 500 HP as optional. Possibly a detuned hellcat motor or the 6.4 SRT.
Likely the same options as Ram 1500, 3.6 eTorque as base with Hemi and Ecodiesel as options.
 

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I liked the original 4WD station wagon concept of the wagoneer.... That was something unique. The timing was good for it...., but, instead they went with the cookie cutter SUV that looks like all the others. I think FCA missed an opportunity.

It is not rocket science. Look at the Bronco. People love it because it looks like the original. The Wagoneer also has a similar following -- so, if the new one looked anything close to the original, they would have had a market already.... Instead, we are looking at something that has no resemblance to the original, which upsets some of the people expecting a Wagoneer, and they have to build a new market from scratch -- even with the "Wagoneer" name.

I mean a "jacked up" 4WD station wagon, with 33" tires, and all the creature comforts, and some needed aero dynamics work, is what I expected.
 

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In the reveal he says : "If there were a road trip, Jeep would be the Rubicon Trail, Wagoneer a beautiful snowy road in the Rockies" at minute 18:10 in video .
I couldn’t help but feel like they were making excuses that it is less Jeep than it should be and way more expensive than what 95% of us could pay.

”if your a peasant and can’t afford a six star vacation on a private island, you want a Wrangler so you can take advantage of the free out doors.“

”if your wife is scared of spiders and hasn’t seen an insect in the last eight years because the nanny knows she‘ll lose her shit if she sees one, the Grand Wagoneer is the one for you.”
 
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It did make me feel somewhat alienated as a lifetime owner of only Jeeps. Every comparison of Jeep to Wagoneer clearly made me feel like 'well, I love all the Jeep stuff, but clearly won't be able to afford a Wagoneer". My brother works in the automotive industry and watched the reveal as well. He said 'find a used one about 3 years old and 25,000 miles and you'll get it for 55K and feel good about that".
 

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