Mojave towing capacity?

[rnovia80]

what is the towing capacity for the Mojave. i am reading that the sport with max tow package will tow more?

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[PancakeCritter]

Mojave: 6,000 lb
Rubicon: 7,000 lb
Sport Max Tow: 7650 lb
(Must have 8spd Auto for all configurations)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

what is the towing capacity for the Mojave. i am reading that the sport with max tow package will tow more?

Yeah, that's why it's called "max tow" because it will tow the maximum of any Gladiator.

Mojave was never designed or intended to be a tow rig.
It's more a special purpose JT, thus the frame, shocks, springs and so on.

Each has their audience, each has their fan base, each has their purpose.

 

[MPMB]

If only there was a way to find out this information, like a consolidation of printed materials, attached with a ferrous metal or industrial adhesive. And if this consolidation of materials would be included with the vehicle, so information could be at literal fingertips. I'm sure I'm asking too much as well, since the age of information we live in has access to practically infinite digital storage, if the manufacturers would digitize this bound material and make it available on a series of tubes, accessible to anyone who has a device capable of accessing these series of tubes.

Or maybe the mods could put a sticky in this subforum?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If only there was a way to find out this information, like a consolidation of printed materials, attached with a ferrous metal or industrial adhesive. And if this consolidation of materials would be included with the vehicle, so information could be at literal fingertips. I'm sure I'm asking too much as well, since the age of information we live in has access to practically infinite digital storage, if the manufacturers would digitize this bound material and make it available on a series of tubes, accessible to anyone who has a device capable of accessing these series of tubes.

Or maybe the mods could put a sticky in this subforum?

Isn't that asking a bit much? I mean, converting - scanning the printed page and making a digital copy? That's a lot of work. Someone typed this out, printed it, then copied it thousands of times - then someone else had to take that printed version, scan all of those pages and create a PDF and upload it.

I assume you mean like the OWNER manual?

(Pages 202 - 208 or so)

https://cdn.dealereprocess.org/cdn/servicemanuals/jeep/2021-gladiator.pdf

 

[MPMB]

Isn't that asking a bit much? I mean, converting - scanning the printed page and making a digital copy? That's a lot of work. Someone typed this out, printed it, then copied it thousands of times - then someone else had to take that printed version, scan all of those pages and create a PDF and upload it.

I assume you mean like the OWNER manual?

(Pages 202 - 208 or so)

https://cdn.dealereprocess.org/cdn/servicemanuals/jeep/2021-gladiator.pdf

Nothing's too much if it's a union job, right? Imagine if someone had to manually scan the owners manual and upload a copy *each time* the manual was downloaded.

A simple table (no one really cares about the frontage area) would do:

Trailer Towing Weights (2021 OM)

Model *	GCWR	Maximum GTW	Maximum Trailer TW
Sport MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Sport AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Sport AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport AT (Tow Pkg)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Sport AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport AT (Max Tow)	12,800 lb (5,806 kg)	7,650 lb (3,470 kg)	765 lb (347 kg)
Sport S MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Sport S AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Sport S AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport S AT (TP)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Sport S AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport S AT (Max)	12,800 lb (5,806 kg)	7,650 lb (3,470 kg)	765 lb (347 kg)
Overland MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Overland AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg) 40	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Overland AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Overland AT (TP)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Overland AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Mojave MT	9,900 lb (4,491 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Mojave AT	11,450 lb (5,194 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Rubicon MT	10,000 lb (4,536 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Rubicon AT	11,800 lb (5,352 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Rubicon AT	12,450 lb (5,647 kg)	7,000 lb (3,175 kg)	700 lb (317 kg)

* 80th/Willys/Freedom follow the generic capacities. 4000/4500 for MT/AT; 6000 w/ Tow Package.

It's pretty easy to figure it out.

Manual, no tow package, no max tow package? 4000lbs.
Auto, no tow package, no max tow package? 4500lbs.

Tow package with gas? 6000lbs.
Tow package with diesel? 6500lbs.

Max Tow Package? 7650lbs.
Rubicon AT? 7000lbs.
Mojave AT? 6000lbs.

 

[Cruizer8]

Nothing's too much if it's a union job, right? Imagine if someone had to manually scan the owners manual and upload a copy *each time* the manual was downloaded.

A simple table (no one really cares about the frontage area) would do:

Trailer Towing Weights (2021 OM)

Model *	GCWR	Maximum GTW	Maximum Trailer TW
Sport MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Sport AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Sport AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport AT (Tow Pkg)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Sport AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport AT (Max Tow)	12,800 lb (5,806 kg)	7,650 lb (3,470 kg)	765 lb (347 kg)
Sport S MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Sport S AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Sport S AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport S AT (TP)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Sport S AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Sport S AT (Max)	12,800 lb (5,806 kg)	7,650 lb (3,470 kg)	765 lb (347 kg)
Overland MT	9,100 lb (4,128 kg)	4,000 lb (1,814 kg)	400 lb (181 kg)
Overland AT	9,650 lb (4,377 kg) 40	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Overland AT	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Overland AT (TP)	11,100 lb (5,035 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Diesel Overland AT (TP)	12,100 lb (5,488 kg)	6,500 lb (2,948 kg)	650 lb (295 kg)
Mojave MT	9,900 lb (4,491 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Mojave AT	11,450 lb (5,194 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Rubicon MT	10,000 lb (4,536 kg)	4,500 lb (2,041 kg)	450 lb (204 kg)
Diesel Rubicon AT	11,800 lb (5,352 kg)	6,000 lb (2,722 kg)	600 lb (272 kg)
Rubicon AT	12,450 lb (5,647 kg)	7,000 lb (3,175 kg)	700 lb (317 kg)

* 80th/Willys/Freedom follow the generic capacities. 4000/4500 for MT/AT; 6000 w/ Tow Package.

It's pretty easy to figure it out.

Manual, no tow package, no max tow package? 4000lbs.
Auto, no tow package, no max tow package? 4500lbs.

Tow package with gas? 6000lbs.
Tow package with diesel? 6500lbs.

Max Tow Package? 7650lbs.
Rubicon AT? 7000lbs.
Mojave AT? 6000lbs.

Thanks for this! I have been trying to determine my tow rating and between everything I saw I wasn't sure if it was 4500 or 6000. This boils it down and makes it easy to understand and now I am confident that it is rated for 6000.

 

[joeym7]

If only there was a way to find out this information, like a consolidation of printed materials, attached with a ferrous metal or industrial adhesive. And if this consolidation of materials would be included with the vehicle, so information could be at literal fingertips. I'm sure I'm asking too much as well, since the age of information we live in has access to practically infinite digital storage, if the manufacturers would digitize this bound material and make it available on a series of tubes, accessible to anyone who has a device capable of accessing these series of tubes.

Or maybe the mods could put a sticky in this subforum?

Most of it is in their 2021 Catalog, they will send you a PDF file if you request it on the Jeep website.

 

[Phishs]

Does anyone know the technical reason the Mojave tows 6,000 and the Rubicon tows 7,000? Same axles, gears, etc but Mojave only tows as much as a sport or overland with regular tow package. It’s also curious that the Rubicon diesel tows less than the gas Rubicon when other trims are the opposite.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Does anyone know the technical reason the Mojave tows 6,000 and the Rubicon tows 7,000? Same axles, gears, etc but Mojave only tows as much as a sport or overland with regular tow package.

Because that's how it tested out.
There's no single or one reason.
It's not "just springs", not just "weight", etc.
It's center of gravity along with vehicle weight along with springs along with multiple other factors.
Mojave sits 1" higher than Rubicon - that's possibly a large part of it. Lifting any vehicle drops your towing ability. The Mojave sits 1" higher so that alone can be at least part of it - a big part or small part only the engineers know.

My thinking - if you need more towing, don't get the Mojave. You can't modify it and change the tow rating.

 

[Dennis K]

Does anyone know the technical reason the Mojave tows 6,000 and the Rubicon tows 7,000? Same axles, gears, etc but Mojave only tows as much as a sport or overland with regular tow package. It’s also curious that the Rubicon diesel tows less than the gas Rubicon when other trims are the opposite.

You would think the diesel would tow more huh? Probably the increased engine/transmission weight contributes to this, putting the GCWR much higher to start with...

 

[Mr._Bill]

You would think the diesel would tow more huh? Probably the increased engine/transmission weight contributes to this, putting the GCWR much higher to start with...

The diesel option adds about 400 pounds to the front end. The biggest limitation to towing capacity for the diesel model is the cooling capability of the Jeep front end design. The diesel engine is quite capable, but tends to overheat under heavy load in the Jeep body.

 

[dcmdon]

The diesel option adds about 400 pounds to the front end. The biggest limitation to towing capacity for the diesel model is the cooling capability of the Jeep front end design. The diesel engine is quite capable, but tends to overheat under heavy load in the Jeep body.

This is why you need to apply some common sense to any rating.

There are a half dozen stories on this site of diesel guys trying to climb the Rocky Mountains with a 5000 lb trailer having overheating problems. There is clearly a cooling limitation that they are running into.

But if you are hauling a load of gravel across town, cooling will never be a problem. So I would not hesitate to haul 8000 lb in a diesel or gas truck short distance at low speed.

With that said, it would be great if we could have access to the SAE report where the limit was set. So that we could see what defined the limitation.

For example, if acceleration fell short of the requirement, that's good. because you can use good judgement to SAFELY tow more in many circumstances.

If an axel broke off, well then you know that's a hard stop. ha.

If it was a stability issue, then exceeding the rated tow capacity on the highway would be dangerous. But a 30 mph run to get gravel would be fine.

(Yes I know ab0ut the legal and liability implications of towing over your rated limit. Please dont' bring that up)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

8000 pounds LOL. Axle buster!
2000 maybe........slow and short distance but I did 1800 about 15-20 miles and that was pushing it.

 

[WXman]

Gosh the exact same thread, over and over and over... It's like the movie Groundhog Day.

Does anybody read the included owners manual? Anyone? My truck came with a copy in the glove box, a digital version on the NAV screen, and a digital version in the app that the sales lady set me up with.

As far as the Mojave rating, it's almost certainly suspension design. Because the reinforced frame, widest track width of any JT, etc. are all BETTER for towing. I personally would put a Timbren SES kit on a Mojave and tow whatever I wanted with it. That would cure the sag while towing, and you could still pop them out when you decide to blast down desert trails.

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