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[ShadowsPapa]

I love the Eibach Pro-Truck Sport shocks I added to my (Rubicon spring added) JTO, so that’s my recommendation. I'm very pleased with the ride quality now after dealing with the terrible Rubi shocks and find the ride very similar to the stock Overland ride IMO.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/anyone-running-eibach-shocks-or-springs.67192/

I really like this comment here you made in the other thread:

The shocks arrived today via UPS and I promptly installed them. My first impressions is they are really close to the ride I had before on the Overland stock shocks before I switched over to the Rubi takeoffs. The ride is firm and controlled again and honestly feels like the truck is heavier is the best way to describe it. The body roll around corners is mostly gone as well as the boat floating feeling.

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[Pescatoral Pursuit]

And another thing swimming around in my mind.......
Front end is lifted 1.5"
Rear end is lifted a whopping 0.75" with spacers.
Any foreseen issues there?

Foreseen issues with the dealer's opinion? Good luck there.

As far as the geometry, I was told by Teraflex to center the shock range with the vehicle at rest.
Going by this metric you may want to disconnect your shocks at the bottom, let them extend, measure the length of shock shaft, then measure the centers from bracket to shock bolt holes to determine how much up and down travel you currently have.
Also take into account the suspension uptravel distance as measured at the bump stops.

This will tell you exactly where you have and where you may need shock travel and if there's a discrepancy.

One of the little pleasures with my Jeep is tuning the suspension to get the most of of every aspect of it for what I do mainly on the trail, and somewhat off.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not sure if this helps ....

Thanks, found that a few weeks ago when I was trying to determine how the various JT shocks compared, but it's all about Rubicon and Fox shocks (aside from the Teraflex listed)

Although the truck only sits 1.5" above normal up front, the Synergy springs are LONG or tall springs, so they'd likely take the truck up higher on a rebound or good bounce so I guess need to look at that.

I'm running the -20 or the 2" lift springs (2" on 4 door)
So the extended length would be around 21" compared to the stock overland spring which is pretty long anyway.

Appreciate all the thoughts, ideas, and other.......

 

[Erievon]

Wish you lived closer, my 1100 mile Overland shocks are just collecting dust. Get the service manager to send me a fedex label, you can have them.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

I need new shocks soon as well. I got the Rubicon Take offs on right now and am researching a good shock for mine. I can't say I've ever really enjoyed how the Rubicon shocks ride honestly. I may end up with Rancho shocks since I enjoyed how they rode on my JKU.

 

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

I'm running the -20 or the 2" lift springs (2" on 4 door)
So the extended length would be around 21" compared to the stock overland spring which is pretty long anyway.

I corresponded with Teraflex the other day to get some unsprung coil spring lengths to check for fatigue. The unsprung length of their 4.5" spring is 24". But... The unsprung length of their 3.5" spring is... also 24".

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I corresponded with Teraflex the other day to get some unsprung coil spring lengths to check for fatigue. The unsprung length of their 4.5" spring is 24". But... The unsprung length of their 3.5" spring is... also 24".

Here's another example like your Teraflex example -
The 10s are 20.75 (left side) but so are the 20s.
Compare the 3" lift springs to the 1" lift springs and they are only 1" apart in length.

Rate is the difference - higher rate would hold the truck up even if the spring wasn't longer.

The extended length would matter at full articulation when one side droops as far as it can - don't want the spring falling out. So it would seem to me that the shock should stop the axle from drooping so far that things can break or come apart.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Truck went in today................ service advisor told me that the front shocks not only were leaking badly but when the tech disconnected on the lower end, he could compress and extend them and there were "dead spots" where there was no resistance - indicating they'd lost a lot of oil. So that was an easy decision for them. They replaced the fronts under warranty and the front feels a lot better.
But...they said they found nothing wrong with the rears (they don't use the bounce test obviously!) but that's ok.
I got new front shocks under warrantyto get me by for a while, I'll buy some rears to put on it to stop the bouncing rear on bumps. Bouncy rears are only good on certain things, not pickups.
Looking at Eibach as mentioned by @steveorama here -

I love the Eibach Pro-Truck Sport shocks I added to my (Rubicon spring added) JTO, so that’s my recommendation. I'm very pleased with the ride quality now after dealing with the terrible Rubi shocks and find the ride very similar to the stock Overland ride IMO.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/anyone-running-eibach-shocks-or-springs.67192/

I note they only list Rubicon and no other level of JT

Can't see that as an issue unless it is in length - my Overland is stock height in the rear save for a 0.75" spacer.

I'd considered the Bilsteins but the fact they are digressive and some have described the bit more "aggressive" ride - not as smooth, I'd rather that not happen. I don't want mushy, but.......

I figure I'll swap out the rears myself soon (assuming health allows - been dealing with that, doctors, ER, urgent care and this and that lately). Then when the fronts get weak again, I'll swap those out. This buys some time, cuts the cost down and allows me to sneak into new shocks. The med visits haven't been well covered by insurance lately.

When I was in a shop doing this sort of thing - we'd bounce the vehicle - bounce and release and more than an up, then settle down, and the shock was bad. I guess they don't do that any more. Doesn't matter how much is oscillates apparently. Up, down, up, down, up is apparently ok. Whatever.

 

[Erievon]

Off topic, sorry to hear about all the med lately. Hoping all will be well.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Off topic, sorry to hear about all the med lately. Hoping all will be well.

Thanks. The ER day was a bust - doc prescribed the wrong meds according to my family DO the next week. And now my doctor is trying to get me into a neurologist.
Got a letter in the mail - cardiologist wants a list of half a dozen tests done before my visit there next month. Geesh, all that time and all they do is "we'll try this and see if it works". No wonder they are called "practicing doctors".

Anyway - trying to order rear shocks for my OVERLAND JT.
I stress the key word- "Overland" on purpose because Northridge, and others, say these shock "do not fit your Gladiator Overland".
Even their own site says "Rubicon".

Has anyone here used these Eibach shocks, this exact part number, on an Overland? (or any Gladiator other than Rubicon?)

https://eibach.com/product/E60-51-024-02-01?epsid=2228

 

[Gizmo]

I run the 2-4" Eibach on the rear of my sport s max tow with Mopar 2" springs and as with anything else I have run Eibach shocks or springs on I absolutely love them . Been playing with Jeeps since 1973 and this is the best riding shock I have ever used . With 37" KO2s and Eibach shocks I swear it feels like the day I brought it home stock . I initially bought a set of Red Rubicon take offs from Fortec. I figured they would be a little longer than my OE shocks plus I hear these are better that the OE fox shocks. If these POS Red shocks are better than the Fox on Rubicons I feel sorry for anyone who bought a Rubicon thinking the Fox was something. Either the Reds they sold me were complete junk or they were shot. At 65mph I felt like I was driving in a hurricane. I put the stock shocks on with extensions and was a 100% improvement until I got the Eibachs on . You should be very pleased with you Eibachs .

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I run the 2-4" Eibach on the rear of my sport s max tow with Mopar 2" springs and as with anything else I have run Eibach shocks or springs on I absolutely love them . Been playing with Jeeps since 1973 and this is the best riding shock I have ever used . With 37" KO2s and Eibach shocks I swear it feels like the day I brought it home stock . I initially bought a set of Red Rubicon take offs from Fortec. I figured they would be a little longer than my OE shocks plus I hear these are better that the OE fox shocks. If these POS Red shocks are better than the Fox on Rubicons I feel sorry for anyone who bought a Rubicon thinking the Fox was something. Either the Reds they sold me were complete junk or they were shot. At 65mph I felt like I was driving in a hurricane. I put the stock shocks on with extensions and was a 100% improvement until I got the Eibachs on . You should be very pleased with you Eibachs .

I was just wondering about length, etc. on an Overland because they are advertised for Rubicon and other sellers say "will not fit Overland" or similar words. WEIRD because the fitment is otherwise the same, and I can't imagine length would be an issue.

So it looks like Monday I contact them and get a pair ordered for the rear........

thanks

 

[Gizmo]

I ran shock extensions with the Red Rubicons which were no longer than My max tow oe shocks were . Now with the Eibach 2-4" I don't need the extensions any more as the Eibachs were just a couple inches longer the the STock shocks . They have the collapsed and extended lengths listed on some of the sites selling them then you don't need their " for Rubicon" confusion part added.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I ran shock extensions with the Red Rubicons which were no longer than My max tow oe shocks were . Now with the Eibach 2-4" I don't need the extensions any more as the Eibachs were just a couple inches longer the the STock shocks . They have the collapsed and extended lengths listed on some of the sites selling them then you don't need their " for Rubicon" confusion part added.

I am running 3/4" spacers under the rear springs and the front has longer springs, lifting it about 1.25 to 1.5" from stock.
They say the work 0 to 2" lift on the front and 0 to 2" on the rear so I'm right in the middle for the most part.
I got new front shocks under warranty, want to replace the rears - to get rid of bouncy, and I do tow and in fact will be towing in 2 weeks. so want stability, while keeping the nice ride

 

[Gizmo]

Thats the exact issue I wanted gone and these did that. I also added a Tereflex track bar bracket to completely flatten the rear track bar. I doubt that was an issue knowing how steep the rear track bar is on my TJ and its fine . I just looked for a site listing the measurement with no luck . Thats how I determined which ones to get for mine as 2" lift is about what I got in the rear so I too was undecided which way to go as they base their description on a Rubicon which just adds to the confusion as they are not all the same height either. May be I found the lengths listed on this foru some place because thats how I determined which was right for me .

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