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Does it work? Can it be done without affecting emissions? Would it void warranty? Has anyone tried, thought about it. Know anyone who did?
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Hydrogen for what?
Hydrogen is EXTREMELY volatile, and requires very strict storage conditions.

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You make hydrogen by applying a voltage across a container of water.

Its called electrolysis.

Hydrogen is not an energy source. Its an energy storage medium. Elemental hydrogen does not exist in nature. So the energy you spend by making it through electrolysis is the same that will be liberated when you burn it.

There is no free lunch.

Making hydrogen is a great use for nuclear plants at night when demand is low. But you wouldn't want to make it with your car. Since the extra electrical load will make the alternator more difficult to turn which will cause your car to use more extra energy turning the alternator than could be liberated by burning the hydrogen.

No free lunch.

And yes. WHY???
 
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Hydrogen for what?
Hydrogen is EXTREMELY volatile, and requires very strict storage conditions.

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Basically I've heard that a person can make a hydrogen generator for a diesel engine leak it into the intake and not under pressure or storage of any sorts. It helps with the combustion of the diesel engine. Improving mpg. I'm hoping someone here has any info on them or even done it on another diesel.
 
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You make hydrogen by applying a voltage across a container of water.

Its called electrolysis.

Hydrogen is not an energy source. Its an energy storage medium. Elemental hydrogen does not exist in nature. So the energy you spend by making it through electrolysis is the same that will be liberated when you burn it.

There is no free lunch.

Making hydrogen is a great use for nuclear plants at night when demand is low. But you wouldn't want to make it with your car. Since the extra electrical load will make the alternator more difficult to turn which will cause your car to use more extra energy turning the alternator than could be liberated by burning the hydrogen.

No free lunch.

And yes. WHY???
Yeah I know nothing is free 😂. Hoping for some information on it that's all. Mostly wondering does it actually work? Vs the energy it takes to make it. Does it actually take that much energy to make it vs what you may gain in mpg?
 

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Yeah I know nothing is free 😂. Hoping for some information on it that's all. Mostly wondering does it actually work? Vs the energy it takes to make it. Does it actually take that much energy to make it vs what you may gain in mpg?
I don't know what you mean by "does it work".

It burns and releases energy. But when you figure that the average internal combustion engine turns about 30% of the heat energy released by the fuel into mechanical energy, then you would be making your vehicle LESS efficient by making hydrogen (since it takes gas to make hydrogen) and then burning it.

in short - it doesn't work.
It takes about 3x more energy to make it than it generates in mechanical energy.
You will not gain in MPG. You will lose.

Again, hydrogen makes sense as a fuel only if you can make it using very cheap or otherwise wasted electricity. Which is exactly why its a perfect match for night time energy storage with systems that can't be throttled down at night. nuclear, hydro if there is an abundance of water, wind, etc.
 

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It’s safe right ???? Propane injection use to be used or even nitrous

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Ah yes, the generic $200 miracle fuel efficiency device that so far has managed to elude the vast R&D departments of every major automaker...but dozens of generic sellers on Amazon have figured it out!
 

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Ah yes, the generic $200 miracle fuel efficiency device that so far has managed to elude the vast R&D departments of every major automaker...but dozens of generic sellers on Amazon have figured it out!
This one weird trick big fuel doesn’t want you to know. Doctors hate him.

Do you have a moment to talk about your car’s extended warranty?
 
 



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