Power steering fluid question

[ShadowsPapa]

Geese, all this talk of guys with low power steering fluid …..gotta check mine I suppose. Weird, I’ve never had a vehicle that required a ps fluid top off. Hmmmmm

EHPS is a bit more complex in the plumbing, etc. Reservoir a distance from the pump has a straight enough hose, but from there it's a different animal.
I've never had to add beyond the little bit that happens in the first few weeks of ownership after all air is worked out of it.
3 of our last Jeeps required some added (only in tiny amounts so the bottle will last me a lifetime) but none of the others ever did.
Once added shorter after taking ownership and driving a few weeks, they've not needed any since.
It's also very possible that the fill at the factory is just to the minimum mark - meaning it's going to look a lot lower when cold, and after some driving once the tiny bubbles are worked out, it will be below minimum.
I've noticed on every truck I've had - there's a huge difference between checking it 3 or 4 hours after a drive on a 70 degree day, and checking it after sitting overnight when it's 50 degrees. That's normal. These fluids expand and contract - ever wonder why they want transmission fluid levels checked at certain temperatures - even on the older transmissions like the C6, C4, TF727, 998, 904, THM 400, THM 350 - they say "check hot". Hmmm, why?
Too many dolts don't read the book, pull the stick out cold, gee, it's below the add! So they add a quart or two then after a long drive, it's kicking fluid out the vent.
My point is - even PS fluid levels will vary with not just the air temperature, but the fluid temperatures. So don't fill it after a drive and 90 degree air temps and then think it's low again when it's been sitting in 50 degree temperatures.

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[AverageJeeper]

local dealer wants 27.99 for a one pint bottle,,,cheaper here but still crazy expensive.

https://store.mopar.com/oem-parts/mopar-power-steering-fluid-68088485ab

 

[KYMISTWALKER]

Can I use this in my 2023 Jeep gladiator high altitude

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Can I use this in my 2023 Jeep gladiator high altitude

If you tried that up here in Canada, you would void your warranty if something happened with the pump. Down in the states, I hear you can run anything and if something happens you have different laws that let you run what ever you choose if the dealership isn’t providing the oil for you. I personally wouldn’t use anything but what FCA recommends.

At the very least, make sure the power steering fluid is for electric pumps and hope it works for you.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Can I use this in my 2023 Jeep gladiator high altitude

Why would you want to? Why not run the proper fluid that's meant for the EHPS system?
1 quart would last you forever in these if all you want to do is top it off. If you are only adding because it's a bit low - buy a pint of the proper MOPAR EHPS and call it good.

Did you look in the OWNERS MANUAL? It tells you what to use. Do it.

I've still got half a bottle from years ago - for a 2020 I had and my current 2022. They just don't go through PS fluid.

And as Kevin said - make bloody well sure it's for EHPS and not ordinary PS fluid..
If you put in the wrong fluid - no law is going to really be of much help when you screw up by not going by your book.
Personally, I just use what the book calls for, and buy it online, etc.


(Warning - editorial content to follow -> Personally, I don't get this affection for Lucas and Royal pain - uh, purple, stuff. Why? Why not use what the factory recommends as they have been researching and refining their specs for years. They have to warrant the stuff. You go switching things out and now, law or no law, you may have arguments on your hands. Do you have money and time to argue back? I could relate the story behind the fluid that AMC finally settled on after years of transmission trouble - and which MOPAR said - yeah, this is the right stuff - after MOPAR absorbed and raped and pillaged AMC in the late 1980s. AMC went through hell with the T5 and like transmissions back then - they finally came up with a fluid that worked and solved all shifting and blown transmission issues in their cars and Jeeps. To this day, you can find that fluid in mother MOPAR's charts, it was that good. But still to this day, Jeep and AMC owners seem to believe they know better, then come into the AMC and legacy Jeep forums wondering "why is this shifting like crap" or "why did my synchros go out" or "Why can't I shift it in cold weather?".)

 

[Hootbro]

Can I use this in my 2023 Jeep gladiator high altitude

Sure, if you want to void your warranty and ruin your pump.

Just buy the the proper MOPAR spec fluid.

 

[Badunit]

Amsoil says its power steering fluid meets the MS11655 spec. Others may also.

 

[talljeeper]

EHPS is a bit more complex in the plumbing, etc. Reservoir a distance from the pump has a straight enough hose, but from there it's a different animal.
I've never had to add beyond the little bit that happens in the first few weeks of ownership after all air is worked out of it.
3 of our last Jeeps required some added (only in tiny amounts so the bottle will last me a lifetime) but none of the others ever did.
Once added shorter after taking ownership and driving a few weeks, they've not needed any since.
It's also very possible that the fill at the factory is just to the minimum mark - meaning it's going to look a lot lower when cold, and after some driving once the tiny bubbles are worked out, it will be below minimum.
I've noticed on every truck I've had - there's a huge difference between checking it 3 or 4 hours after a drive on a 70 degree day, and checking it after sitting overnight when it's 50 degrees. That's normal. These fluids expand and contract - ever wonder why they want transmission fluid levels checked at certain temperatures - even on the older transmissions like the C6, C4, TF727, 998, 904, THM 400, THM 350 - they say "check hot". Hmmm, why?
Too many dolts don't read the book, pull the stick out cold, gee, it's below the add! So they add a quart or two then after a long drive, it's kicking fluid out the vent.
My point is - even PS fluid levels will vary with not just the air temperature, but the fluid temperatures. So don't fill it after a drive and 90 degree air temps and then think it's low again when it's been sitting in 50 degree temperatures.

So what do you recommend is the proper method? TIA

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So what do you recommend is the proper method? TIA

For checking the power steering fluid? I always check after it's been sitting a while - in fact, I check all fluids that way. "cold" (which simply means ambient temperatures, such as 60 or 70 degrees or so).
With the exception of the brake fluid level - which was WAY too full, all fluids have been right where they belong.
The sales guy apologized for the brake fluid and a couple of other things and is buying me a tank of gas to help make up for it. And - their general manager has met with their prep and shop people about it (we've spent a ton of money with those people and they know it)

 

[Vtur]

For checking the power steering fluid? I always check after it's been sitting a while - in fact, I check all fluids that way. "cold" (which simply means ambient temperatures, such as 60 or 70 degrees or so).
With the exception of the brake fluid level - which was WAY too full, all fluids have been right where they belong.
The sales guy apologized for the brake fluid and a couple of other things and is buying me a tank of gas to help make up for it. And - their general manager has met with their prep and shop people about it (we've spent a ton of money with those people and they know it)

Ain't that's what topped off mean. Filled to the top of all reservoirs. One of Jiffy Lube's rule

 

[talljeeper]

For checking the power steering fluid? I always check after it's been sitting a while - in fact, I check all fluids that way. "cold" (which simply means ambient temperatures, such as 60 or 70 degrees or so).
With the exception of the brake fluid level - which was WAY too full, all fluids have been right where they belong.
The sales guy apologized for the brake fluid and a couple of other things and is buying me a tank of gas to help make up for it. And - their general manager has met with their prep and shop people about it (we've spent a ton of money with those people and they know it)

Thank Ya Sir. That method is my go to as well. I just to be sure I wasn't missing any new voodoo

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