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Rock Krawler JT 3” Pro-X "No Limits" Stage 1 vs. Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit

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Any advice on the following is much appreciated.

At times, I’m going to be wheeling my JKR fairly hard.

I’m torn between the following two lifts:

(1) The Rock Krawler JT 3.0 Inch Pro-X "No Limits" System - Stage 1; and

(2) the Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit w/ Stealth Shocks


The Rock Krawler JT 3.0 Inch Pro-X "No Limits" System - Stage 1 includes:

(2) Triple rate front coil springs

(2) Quad rate rear coil springs

(4) 2.25 RRD Spec shocks

(4) High clearance adjustable lower control arms

(4) Adjustable upper control arms

(4) Spring correction seats

(1) Adjustable front track bar

(2) "No Limits" front sway bar links

(1) Pro-X bolt in rear axle cradle

(2) Extended rear sway bar links

(1) Drill and Tap Kit

http://rockkrawler.com/jt-3-0-inch-pro-x-no-limits-system-stage-1/
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The Fabtech lift includes:

Front Upper & Lower adjustable Link Arms

Rear Upper & Lower adjustable Link Arms

Front Link Arm Crossmember

Heavy Duty Flipped Draglink

Front & Rear Track Bar Brackets

Front & Rear Corner Specific Dual Rate Coil Springs

Front & Rear Sway Bar Links

Front Shock Mount Bracket

Front & Rear Bump Stop Extensions

https://fabtechmotorsports.com/product/3-crawler-lift-kit-w-stealth-shocks-k4169m/
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My likely installer said that he does not recommend the RK lift because of the use of “open Joints.” The Fabtech site says that the “Link Arms … are guaranteed not to bend and come with Fabtech’s exclusive 5 Ton Joints with a lifetime warranty to never to wear out. Super strong on the trail while being smooth and quiet on the highway.”

Are there any advantages to the Fabtech link arms?


The Fabtech mfr site describes the Draglink Flip System as “A heavy duty draglink is relocated on the steering knuckle to retain the factory steering geometry with the stock pitman arm. It provides bind free operation at full articulation and eliminates bump steer throughout the travel. It does not increase load on the steering box like a dropped pitman arm can.”


I’m also considering the Synergy Jeep JL / JT HD Steering Kit

HD Adjustable Drag Link

HD Adjustable Tie Rod

https://www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-hd-steering-kit.html?category_id=4980
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Would I not need that with the Fabtech lift, given that it comes with the flipped draglink? Would I still want to get HD tie rods?


I think I also am going to add the Fox Steering Stabilizer. Any thoughts on that?
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Curious as well. I'm brand new to the wrangler/gladiator platform, so I'm trying to absorb as much knowledge as I can before I decide on which way to take the suspension.

Sidenote: I'm curious about the quality of the Dirt Logic shocks that come with the Fabtech kit. Are they any good?
 
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Curious as well. I'm brand new to the wrangler/gladiator platform, so I'm trying to absorb as much knowledge as I can before I decide on which way to take the suspension.

Sidenote: I'm curious about the quality of the Dirt Logic shocks that come with the Fabtech kit. Are they any good?
hopefully, we will hear from the quorum. The Fabtech kit comes with three different types of shocks. I linked the lowest level, figuring that I can swap those out going forward after I stop bleeding money from the initial items.
 

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Any long arm kit is going to require some cutting and welding, when you go long arm there is no going back to stock. I cannot see how they mount that so called long arm bracket without cutting off the OEM brackets. Fabtech has always had a reputation of saying their kits are bolt on then you find out that some welding is required at some point. I found this to be true ten years ago when i installed a lift on my F250.

I would suggest looking at the install instructions for the Fabtech lift. I`m sure you will find some, cutting, welding and drilling is required.
 

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FYI i purchased the same RK lift that you looking at including shocks i should have it installed by the end of this coming week. I`m 66 so i figured it will take me 3-4 days.
 

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The rear Fabtech control arms use OEM Clevite type bushing where they mount to the frame the Fabtech control arms are also hollow the RK control arms are solid steel. The RK joints will require a cleaning every now and then with WD40 or Liquid Film but it can be done with the arms mounted, eight years ago i had a RK lift and never had any issue of any kind.
 

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FYI i purchased the same RK lift that you looking at including shocks i should have it installed by the end of this coming week. I`m 66 so i figured it will take me 3-4 days.
hey Dave i'd help you with the install if you wasn't so far away.
 

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hey Dave i'd help you with the install if you wasn't so far away.
Thanks Todd. Luckily i`m retired so i have the time, it`s the end result that will keep me going.
 
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I just ordered the following items:

Rock Krawler JT 3” Pro-X "No Limits" Stage 1 vs. Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit:
(2) Triple rate front coil springs
(2) Quad rate rear coil springs
(4) 2.25 RRD Spec shocks
(4) High clearance adjustable lower control arms
(4) Adjustable upper control arms
(4) Spring correction seats
(1) Adjustable front track bar
(2) "No Limits" front sway bar links
(1) Pro-X bolt in rear axle cradle
(2) Extended rear sway bar links
(1) Drill and Tap Kit
http://rockkrawler.com/jt-3-0-inch-pro-x-no-limits-system-stage-1/

Synergy Jeep JL / JT HD Steering Kit:
HD Adjustable Drag Link
HD Adjustable Tie Rod
https://www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-hd-steering-kit.html?category_id=4980

Fox Racing Shox 985-24-173 2.0 Performance Series IFP Steering Stabilizer
https://www.quadratec.com/p/fox-racing-shox/20-performance-series-ifp-steering-stabilizer-wrangler-jl

Quadratec QRC Front Winch Ready Bumper Full Width with 12,000 lb Synthetic Winch:
https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/qrc-front-winch-ready-bumper-jeep-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt/full-width-12000-lb-synthetic

I also am asking the installer to extend the brake lines and, if possible, extend the breathers for the differentials, transfer case, and transmission (to increase, if possible, the fording depth, as they did to my JKUR back in 2012).
 

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I just ordered the following items:

Rock Krawler JT 3” Pro-X "No Limits" Stage 1 vs. Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit:
(2) Triple rate front coil springs
(2) Quad rate rear coil springs
(4) 2.25 RRD Spec shocks
(4) High clearance adjustable lower control arms
(4) Adjustable upper control arms
(4) Spring correction seats
(1) Adjustable front track bar
(2) "No Limits" front sway bar links
(1) Pro-X bolt in rear axle cradle
(2) Extended rear sway bar links
(1) Drill and Tap Kit
http://rockkrawler.com/jt-3-0-inch-pro-x-no-limits-system-stage-1/

Synergy Jeep JL / JT HD Steering Kit:
HD Adjustable Drag Link
HD Adjustable Tie Rod
https://www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-hd-steering-kit.html?category_id=4980

Fox Racing Shox 985-24-173 2.0 Performance Series IFP Steering Stabilizer
https://www.quadratec.com/p/fox-racing-shox/20-performance-series-ifp-steering-stabilizer-wrangler-jl

Quadratec QRC Front Winch Ready Bumper Full Width with 12,000 lb Synthetic Winch:
https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/qrc-front-winch-ready-bumper-jeep-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt/full-width-12000-lb-synthetic

I also am asking the installer to extend the brake lines and, if possible, extend the breathers for the differentials, transfer case, and transmission (to increase, if possible, the fording depth, as they did to my JKUR back in 2012).
Great choices that's a very complete set up it should handle anything you put it through.
 

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I just ordered the following items:

Rock Krawler JT 3” Pro-X "No Limits" Stage 1 vs. Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit:
(2) Triple rate front coil springs
(2) Quad rate rear coil springs
(4) 2.25 RRD Spec shocks
(4) High clearance adjustable lower control arms
(4) Adjustable upper control arms
(4) Spring correction seats
(1) Adjustable front track bar
(2) "No Limits" front sway bar links
(1) Pro-X bolt in rear axle cradle
(2) Extended rear sway bar links
(1) Drill and Tap Kit
http://rockkrawler.com/jt-3-0-inch-pro-x-no-limits-system-stage-1/

Synergy Jeep JL / JT HD Steering Kit:
HD Adjustable Drag Link
HD Adjustable Tie Rod
https://www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-hd-steering-kit.html?category_id=4980

Fox Racing Shox 985-24-173 2.0 Performance Series IFP Steering Stabilizer
https://www.quadratec.com/p/fox-racing-shox/20-performance-series-ifp-steering-stabilizer-wrangler-jl

Quadratec QRC Front Winch Ready Bumper Full Width with 12,000 lb Synthetic Winch:
https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/qrc-front-winch-ready-bumper-jeep-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt/full-width-12000-lb-synthetic

I also am asking the installer to extend the brake lines and, if possible, extend the breathers for the differentials, transfer case, and transmission (to increase, if possible, the fording depth, as they did to my JKUR back in 2012).
hey did you remember the steering damper relocation kit ?
 
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hey did you remember the steering damper relocation kit ?
thanks for the help. Can you explain/link what I am missing and why?

Many thanks in advance.
 

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thanks for the help. Can you explain/link what I am missing and why?

Many thanks in advance.
when you replace your Tie-rod the steering damper mount goes with it, so synergy has a new mount to install the new one it's shown it your steering kit but I think it's an option
 

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8807-03 steering stabilizer relocation kit $80.00
 

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I just ordered the following items:

Rock Krawler JT 3” Pro-X "No Limits" Stage 1 vs. Fabtech 3″ Crawler Lift Kit:
(2) Triple rate front coil springs
(2) Quad rate rear coil springs
(4) 2.25 RRD Spec shocks
(4) High clearance adjustable lower control arms
(4) Adjustable upper control arms
(4) Spring correction seats
(1) Adjustable front track bar
(2) "No Limits" front sway bar links
(1) Pro-X bolt in rear axle cradle
(2) Extended rear sway bar links
(1) Drill and Tap Kit
http://rockkrawler.com/jt-3-0-inch-pro-x-no-limits-system-stage-1/

Synergy Jeep JL / JT HD Steering Kit:
HD Adjustable Drag Link
HD Adjustable Tie Rod
https://www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-hd-steering-kit.html?category_id=4980

Fox Racing Shox 985-24-173 2.0 Performance Series IFP Steering Stabilizer
https://www.quadratec.com/p/fox-racing-shox/20-performance-series-ifp-steering-stabilizer-wrangler-jl

Quadratec QRC Front Winch Ready Bumper Full Width with 12,000 lb Synthetic Winch:
https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/qrc-front-winch-ready-bumper-jeep-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt/full-width-12000-lb-synthetic

I also am asking the installer to extend the brake lines and, if possible, extend the breathers for the differentials, transfer case, and transmission (to increase, if possible, the fording depth, as they did to my JKUR back in 2012).
WOW! Your going to have a nice and capable Jeep, congrats!
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