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I've recently noticed that the passenger side of my Gladiator with 2" Mopar lift is leaning. I haven't measured it yet, but by the eyeball test it's about 3/4" to 1" of lean. Now, like any normal Jeep owner would to, I searched the internet to find answers. I found three possible answers:

1.) It leans to the right to account for the weight of the driver.
2.) It leans to the right because that's where the fuel tank is and fuel is heavy.
3.) All Jeep Wranglers/Gladiators do it, it's just more noticeable on lifted vehicles.

So I set out to figure out which one is the real answer/solution. Here's what I found:

1.) I sat in the driver's seat (I weigh 200 lbs.) - Probably took 1/4" out of the lean.
2.) Ran the fuel tank damn near empty - lean is still the same.
3.) I've seen rear end shots of many lifted Wrangler/Gladiators and the lean isn't there. Even on some with 4.5" of lift.

Does anyone else have any experience or ideas with this? Are there any real solutions out there besides putting coil spacers on one side?

Also, because I know I'll get asked - Yes, all the springs are in the correct spot. I installed the lift myself and checked the instructions about 8 times before I installed them.
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I've recently noticed that the passenger side of my Gladiator with 2" Mopar lift is leaning. I haven't measured it yet, but by the eyeball test it's about 3/4" to 1" of lean. Now, like any normal Jeep owner would to, I searched the internet to find answers. I found three possible answers:

1.) It leans to the right to account for the weight of the driver.
2.) It leans to the right because that's where the fuel tank is and fuel is heavy.
3.) All Jeep Wranglers/Gladiators do it, it's just more noticeable on lifted vehicles.

So I set out to figure out which one is the real answer/solution. Here's what I found:

1.) I sat in the driver's seat (I weigh 200 lbs.) - Probably took 1/4" out of the lean.
2.) Ran the fuel tank damn near empty - lean is still the same.
3.) I've seen rear end shots of many lifted Wrangler/Gladiators and the lean isn't there. Even on some with 4.5" of lift.

Does anyone else have any experience or ideas with this? Are there any real solutions out there besides putting coil spacers on one side?

Also, because I know I'll get asked - Yes, all the springs are in the correct spot. I installed the lift myself and checked the instructions about 8 times before I installed them.
Most likely, the springs haven't had time to settle. Just like the initial 'bounce' that is no longer there - the springs need time to break in.
 
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Most likely, the springs haven't had time to settle. Just like the initial 'bounce' that is no longer there - the springs need time to break in.
It's been two months since install. I would think they would have settled by now.
 

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It's been two months since install. I would think they would have settled by now.
I would give it a full year with camping,towing, hauling to give the coil springs a real chance to settle. They aren't broken in yet.
 

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If it truly is 1" might be worth swapping the springs just to see. Know it is a lot of work to do so but could fix the issue.
 

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If it truly is 1" might be worth swapping the springs just to see. Know it is a lot of work to do so but could fix the issue.
If I can recall, the springs on our gladiator are specific to each corner so can you swap them
 

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I had a little over an inch of lean (PF low) on my JTRD, right from the factory.

Installed my Mopar 2" diesel specific kit (with Terraflex 1" leveling), and it's dead nuts on now, all the way around.

I DID note that the instructions from Mopar were wrong/conflicting when it came to the location of the springs. I could imagine that, unless you were paying REALLY close attention, it would be very easy to swap driver/passenger. I also imagine, this could lead to a lean. It was a search on this forum that got the correct springs in the correct locations.
 
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I’ve got the same lean, quality lift too. Any solutions?
yes there is manufactures that make spacers to help with the lean on the passenger side.
 
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I saw a Gobi Gladiator today running a Mopar lift and 37’s. It had the exact same lean as mine had. Given that it was a Gobi color, I’m guessing it was an early build Mopar lift and they’re all plagued with that stupid passenger side lean. I was driving behind it for awhile and it was really noticeable.
 

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I have the Mopar lift as well and while driving I could tell the front passenger front was lower. I checked the spring numbers and the higher numbers are on the passenger side front and back but there is a solid 1" (if not more) height difference from Passenger to Drivers side.

Cant be the settling in theory unless the settle in time is the same as waiting for the engine "to beak-in" for better fuel economy. The lift has been on for 18 months roughly 23k miles and the vehicle is 2 years old next month and 29k miles....still waiting for that engine to break in....

Per the post above from what I can tell there is not much bow to mention.

I do have a 1.5' daystar puck in the front....maybe I could take the 1" puck out on the drivers side....heck I dont know.


Just weird...I didn't recall this when I first added the lift...

I know the FJ's had this lean as well and the OME lifts came with a spacer to offset the lean.
 

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I have the Mopar lift as well and while driving I could tell the front passenger front was lower. I checked the spring numbers and the higher numbers are on the passenger side front and back but there is a solid 1" (if not more) height difference from Passenger to Drivers side.

Cant be the settling in theory unless the settle in time is the same as waiting for the engine "to beak-in" for better fuel economy. The lift has been on for 18 months roughly 23k miles and the vehicle is 2 years old next month and 29k miles....still waiting for that engine to break in....

Per the post above from what I can tell there is not much bow to mention.

I do have a 1.5' daystar puck in the front....maybe I could take the 1" puck out on the drivers side....heck I dont know.


Just weird...I didn't recall this when I first added the lift...

I know the FJ's had this lean as well and the OME lifts came with a spacer to offset the lean.
My shop and I cant quite figure it out either. I have a Clayton lift and there is a noticeable lean as well. @Claytonoffroad says there is not a difference in their driver / passenger springs? My shop actually told me they put a 1.5” puck on the passenger side and we are still having a lean. It’s going back in Friday.
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