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I just know this bad boy is gonna cost 80 plus grand and have a range worse than a fully overland loaded gladiator on 37s with no rehear.
 

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Granted we're likely in the market for an EV next year but I don't think that even with incentives this will be on the short list. First year jitters notwithstanding I'm really not looking to dump $60K+ on her Bronco Sport replacement.

But- kudos to Jeep for doing something that isn't a bubble shaped CUV.
 

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Jeep Gladiator Spied: Jeep Recon INTERIOR First Look + Driving Modes IMG_7480

Looks like they went the Tesla route with touchscreen controlling most everything.

Would love to see a comparison between this, Scout, and Rivian.
 

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For me, this thing gets a solid veto. Independent suspension, electric power, and assumed high cost. I'll take a gasser any day. I owned a Tesla. Once you get past the fact that you own the fastest thing in the world, there's little else going on. I couldn't even take the trip I planned with it because of the lack of charging stations. Oh, and waiting to charge—that's wonderful.
This thing might work in a suburban setting, but why would you need an expensive boxy Land Rover wanna-be in that setting? I think it's all about government compliance and making a statement. It gets a 5/10 and a yawn from me.
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For me, this thing gets a solid veto. Independent suspension, electric power, and assumed high cost. I'll take a gasser any day. I owned a Tesla. Once you get past the fact that you own the fastest thing in the world, there's little else going on. I couldn't even take the trip I planned with it because of the lack of charging stations. Oh, and waiting to charge—that's wonderful.
This thing might work in a suburban setting, but why would you need an expensive boxy Land Rover wanna-be in that setting? I think it's all about government compliance and making a statement. It gets a 5/10 and a yawn from me.
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I'm not disagreeing with you- I'd much rather see a BEV + extender like the upcoming Scout, Wagoneer S and Ramcharger than a sole BEV off roader. I do not see the appeal of a pure BEV in an off-road vehicle. Last thing you want to do is be 50 miles from civilization crawling around and your battery runs out. At least with gas or diesel you can carry extra or get some dropped to you.

But I also don't think Jeep is angling this towards its enthusiast/off road Wrangler and/or Gladiator buyers either.

They're going after the "lifestyle" vehicle market where 99% of the time it will be on the road and used for commuting and Costco runs. That being said the IFS makes a lot more sense than running the Dana E-Beam SFA- it should have better road manners.
 

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I'm not disagreeing with you- I'd much rather see a BEV + extender like the upcoming Scout, Wagoneer S and Ramcharger than a sole BEV off roader. I do not see the appeal of a pure BEV in an off-road vehicle. Last thing you want to do is be 50 miles from civilization crawling around and your battery runs out. At least with gas or diesel you can carry extra or get some dropped to you.

But I also don't think Jeep is angling this towards its enthusiast/off road Wrangler and/or Gladiator buyers either.

They're going after the "lifestyle" vehicle market where 99% of the time it will be on the road and used for commuting and Costco runs. That being said the IFS makes a lot more sense than running the Dana E-Beam SFA- it should have better road manners.
I don't know if I agree with your assessment of them targeting the the mall crowd/lifestyle crew. I mean the thing appears to be outfiited with BF Goodrich AT 33" tires. It also shows a rock/mud drive mode toggle on the center console. This should be a BEV + RE unit given that it "appears" they're targeting this to have off road chops. Given that it's BEV only they'd probably be better off putting AS tires on it and ditch the rock/mud modes for snow/wet/and sand maybe.

I'm watching the Scout rollout closely. I think they've done a lot of things right so far. No way I'm going to be a beta tester though. I wanna see what the service looks like and how many issues they have. I also don't believe for a sec. that this won't be less than $75K .
 

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I don't know if I agree with your assessment of them targeting the the mall crowd/lifestyle crew. I mean the thing appears to be outfiited with BF Goodrich AT 33" tires. It also shows a rock/mud drive mode toggle on the center console. This should be a BEV + RE unit given that it "appears" they're targeting this to have off road chops. Given that it's BEV only they'd probably be better off putting AS tires on it and ditch the rock/mud modes for snow/wet/and sand maybe.
I disagree- the majority of JLU sales are mall crawlers, and I'd bet most Rubicons sold in the past few years never see a gravel driveway let alone a trail or fire road. The industry knows this, hence the rise of the off road ready trims on everything from Hondas to Lexus. Jeep is positioning itself with the Recon to get into that game and good for them. If it winds up with real off road chops, even better.

I'm watching the Scout rollout closely. I think they've done a lot of things right so far. No way I'm going to be a beta tester though. I wanna see what the service looks like and how many issues they have. I also don't believe for a sec. that this won't be less than $75K .
Same here. I have a hundo down as a place holder for now but I'm not terribly enthused buying a brand new vehicle in its first year from a brand new company. Time will tell.
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