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don't take this personal, but that bumper being a off road bumper just barely held up. Was it a pretty cheap and thin metal bumper?

a bumper made out of 3/16" plate metal and welded on bull bars would have taken that hit a lot better.
No offense taken. I went with the Rugged Ridge for some weight savings, having the heavier diesel motor in the Jeep. Still did what it was supposed to do. Kept the deer off my hood and out of the passenger seat. Thanks and cheers!
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How thick is that metal? I went through a buck at around 45mph in my TJ with a smittybilt XRC bumper. No damage at all, only a little hair in the which cable.
That is the Rugged Ridge Spartan bumper. I know it is a little thinner but that is why I went this way, trying to save a little weight since I have the diesel. Still alot better than the stock plastic would have been.
 
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The que that shows that as a thin bumper is you can see the imprint of the bumper mounting plates just above the left tow hook. Those mounting end flanges aren't that thick, maybe 1/8" . To have them not bend and to have what appears to be sheet metal form around them, that is a thin bumper giving a false sense of security. People buy these cheap bumpers thinking they go a deal and it's going really protect you from deer and such, when in fact it will buckle and do nothing. I won't even go into thinking that thing was strong enough to actually do any winching.

3/16" steel plate bumpers are not going to imprint around bumper horns on impact. Either they don't move or the the frame gets tweaked on a bad impact.

What gets me is people buy cheap cosmetic bumpers thinking these things are actually worth a damn and will protect them, then start doing things with them that they were never designed for.

You think a bolt on stinger is going to hold up to a forward roll and roll you to the side?
Not a really cheap bumper. It's the Rugged Ridge Spartan. It is a lightweight bumper, and I knew that when I bought it. The bolt on stinger took a hell of an impact. The 3/16 plate steel tore through. Still a lot less damage to the vehicle than if I had the stock bumper.
 

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I disagree, if you are buying a bumper to protect yourself from deer, then you should get a thick walled offroad bumper so it will not crumple like tinfoil.

Look at Riverdogs post above to support my statement.
Insert the other cheek (my 2 cents)—
Having a stout beefy bumper is all good for off-roading & such…. Bumpers that don’t crumble in an accident will only transfer the forces somewhere else. Sure - the bumper will be in great shape, but your grill, hood, engine parts, will be trashed. I’d rather the bumper destroy itself to protect the rest of the jeep. I can buy another bumper.
 

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My wife and I take drives to Lemington quite often I definitely will be keeping my eyes more open now!! What area did you have the mishap?? I like travelling the old #3!
 

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Around here, the bumper would only hit the upper legs while the deer goes over the bumper.
I hit one with my SX4 years ago - busted the deer's legs up badly and sent it flying over a ditch into someone's yard. The result to my car - bumper totally unphased, right fender pushed back a bit, right headlights destroyed.
Another guy hit 3 with his SX4 - one went under the car, another went flying clear over the roof and the 3rd went flying off to the left. Only the fender and hood were damaged - bumper was unphased. (that stout aluminum can take a heck of a whack, as proven when my son's SX4 was rear-ended - only messed up the trim on the bumper, totaled the car that hit him)
I had a chat with a former member, comparing deer weights, heights and so on - I think he was from Kentucky, and he could not believe how much taller/bigger they are around here.
The bumper won't be your concern here - the deer coming into your windshield will be.
 

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Insert the other cheek (my 2 cents)—
Having a stout beefy bumper is all good for off-roading & such…. Bumpers that don’t crumble in an accident will only transfer the forces somewhere else. Sure - the bumper will be in great shape, but your grill, hood, engine parts, will be trashed. I’d rather the bumper destroy itself to protect the rest of the jeep. I can buy another bumper.
The stock sheetmetal under the stock plastic bumper isn't absorbing any impact. An impact big enough that you're damaging frame, pushing a solid bumper into the grill, etc is going straight through the plastic/sheetmetal bumper period. They all mount the same way, effectively the frame horns/tow hooks are impacted directly and no bumper is absorbing much of anything. In an off center impact is either small enough to be deflected or is straight through the stock bumper and in to fender/grill/tire etc. If it's small enough to be deflected/absorbed by the stock bumper or isn't transferring anything through a stout bumper. I run the stock steel bumper in stubby mode with the winch plate and winch. Making the frame horns as stout as possible. Any would be off center light impacts should be deflected by the 39s. On my gladiator I went aftermarket stubby with winch mount as the plastic garbage wouldn't deflect me than a shopping cart in my opinion and I needed a winch mount.
 

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The stock sheetmetal under the stock plastic bumper isn't absorbing any impact. An impact big enough that you're damaging frame, pushing a solid bumper into the grill, etc is going straight through the plastic/sheetmetal bumper period. They all mount the same way, effectively the frame horns/tow hooks are impacted directly and no bumper is absorbing much of anything. In an off center impact is either small enough to be deflected or is straight through the stock bumper and in to fender/grill/tire etc. If it's small enough to be deflected/absorbed by the stock bumper or isn't transferring anything through a stout bumper. I run the stock steel bumper in stubby mode with the winch plate and winch. Making the frame horns as stout as possible. Any would be off center light impacts should be deflected by the 39s. On my gladiator I went aftermarket stubby with winch mount as the plastic garbage wouldn't deflect me than a shopping cart in my opinion and I needed a winch mount.
Folks were complaining about the aftermarket bumper (that that OP had) - saying it was too thin (experienced damage). Similar to anything you mount on the front…. I’d rather see the bumper (OEM or aftermarket) crumble first before damaging other parts.

Another thing that you have to consider….. Airbags. Most folks don’t think about it. Any aftermarket bumper should be ‘airbag compatible’. To ensure the airbag sensors (where-ever they are) can sense a collision and deploy as they would with the OEM setup.
 

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Stinks but the beauty of the Jeep is now it gives you a reason to play at the parts store and make it more of your own.
 

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Another thing that you have to consider….. Airbags. Most folks don’t think about it. Any aftermarket bumper should be ‘airbag compatible’. To ensure the airbag sensors (where-ever they are) can sense a collision and deploy as they would with the OEM setup.
As far as I know every bumper, including no bumper at all, is compatible with Jeep airbag sensors. They are inertia sensors located behind the grill somewhere thus allowing customers to do what they want to the front bumper with no ill effects.
 

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Around here, the bumper would only hit the upper legs while the deer goes over the bumper.
I hit one with my SX4 years ago - busted the deer's legs up badly and sent it flying over a ditch into someone's yard. The result to my car - bumper totally unphased, right fender pushed back a bit, right headlights destroyed.
Another guy hit 3 with his SX4 - one went under the car, another went flying clear over the roof and the 3rd went flying off to the left. Only the fender and hood were damaged - bumper was unphased. (that stout aluminum can take a heck of a whack, as proven when my son's SX4 was rear-ended - only messed up the trim on the bumper, totaled the car that hit him)
I had a chat with a former member, comparing deer weights, heights and so on - I think he was from Kentucky, and he could not believe how much taller/bigger they are around here.
The bumper won't be your concern here - the deer coming into your windshield will be.
The further north you are the taller deer are, winter survival plays a factor. In south Fl, we have Keys deer,they are the size of German Shepards.
 

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Folks were complaining about the aftermarket bumper (that that OP had) - saying it was too thin (experienced damage). Similar to anything you mount on the front…. I’d rather see the bumper (OEM or aftermarket) crumble first before damaging other parts.

Another thing that you have to consider….. Airbags. Most folks don’t think about it. Any aftermarket bumper should be ‘airbag compatible’. To ensure the airbag sensors (where-ever they are) can sense a collision and deploy as they would with the OEM setup.
If the bumper were more stout, it could have deflected the deer saving the fender. I don't see enough force that it would have bent the frame rails in this impact which is my point. The edge of the bumper as a crumple zone only works in light impacts, which in my opinion wouldn't have caused major structural damage in the first place. A significant head on impact is bending the frame. A light impact isn't. I doubt the bumper changes that much as the frame horns stick out into the bumper. You can see where this bumper bent around the frame horn.
 

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My bumper is 1/4 inch hardened aluminum. Don't know how it does with deer. Probably better than plastic.
 

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The further north you are the taller deer are, winter survival plays a factor. In south Fl, we have Keys deer,they are the size of German Shepards.
Why didn't i think of that - makes sense, gotta be right.
We also feed them corn. Many farmers leave a couple of rows, sometimes several, in fields near groves or streams, unharvested, for the deer to feed on.
Me, I unwillingly feed them apples - unless I catch them at it! (Often they just stare at me, and go back to eating apples)
 

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As far as I know every bumper, including no bumper at all, is compatible with Jeep airbag sensors. They are inertia sensors located behind the grill somewhere thus allowing customers to do what they want to the front bumper with no ill effects.
For sure. I thought I read they were along the front of the frame rails somewhere, but the bumper will only determine how harsh the impact is. The sensors will still work once the correct criteria is reaches. The stock bumpers have those crush cans to absorb small impacts, possibly to prevent air bag blowing under certain conditions, but the very worst that happens is that you no longer have the "crush devices" or bumper to absorb certain impacts, causing MAYBE under certain conditions the air bags to go when they might not have otherwise. There's long discussions on this in other threads in the past - frankly, I don't see it as anything to worry about. The air bags will still work fine when needed without any issue.
In other words - some purists may want to put the crush cans back behind the Chinese Rubicon style bumper, but if you don't, things will still work fine. Air bags will definitely still operate when they are needed. (I've seen on a wrangler forum where a person did just that - moved those cans over to their knock-off bumper)
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