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Why doesn't FCA offer 2" lift as option for Rubicon model?

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Not sure why FCA (Mopar / Jeep) doesn't offer the 2" lift as an option on the Rubicon models. It just seems like a waste of money to purchase a Rubicon, with the upgraded suspension, only to immediately pull it off to add the 2" lift to accommodate 37" tires. I understand that you can sell your stock Rubicon suspension parts, but why not just be able to order it that way?
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Not sure why FCA (Mopar / Jeep) doesn't offer the 2" lift as an option on the Rubicon models. It just seems like a waste of money to purchase a Rubicon, with the upgraded suspension, only to immediately pull it off to add the 2" lift to accommodate 37" tires. I understand that you can sell your stock Rubicon suspension parts, but why not just be able to order it that way?
Throw 37s and a teraflex leveling kit on.
Dont waste money on mopar lifts.
 

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Not sure why FCA (Mopar / Jeep) doesn't offer the 2" lift as an option on the Rubicon models. It just seems like a waste of money to purchase a Rubicon, with the upgraded suspension, only to immediately pull it off to add the 2" lift to accommodate 37" tires. I understand that you can sell your stock Rubicon suspension parts, but why not just be able to order it that way?
Maybe government emission standards?
 

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If you have seen any of the ordering threads, I don’t think the plant needs any more complexity in the process.
 

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I am pretty happy with what you can get "factory" now days including rubicons, trackhawks, demons... A warranty is pretty awesome on all these extremes. Sure a rubicon doesn't top aftermarket, nor does a demon, but meeting regs. and offering a warranty? Hallelujah mopar!
 

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They would also have to EPA certify the MPG for that configuration and would be a hit to their CAFE target goals. Selling it as a buyer selected accessory after the fact of sale negates that issue.
 

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I get why they don't offer a lift from the factory. But the weird thing is that the Rubi has those custom shocks and if you get the Mopar lift kit you replace them with... standard ones, I guess?
 

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Another fundamental reason not to buy a Rubicon.
 

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Throw 37s and a teraflex leveling kit on.
Dont waste money on mopar lifts.
I am totally confused by this. The Mopar 2" kit upgrades the shocks from 2" to 2.5" bodies + longer travel, includes uprated springs, and has LCAs to correct for camber.

You might think you can do better with a non-OEM lift, but in no way is a leveling kit a superior solution except, perhaps, for mall crawling.
 

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Throw 37s and a teraflex leveling kit on.
Dont waste money on mopar lifts.
Leveling kits don’t do a pickup any justice. The truck is supposed to have that rake to help offset the tilt when you start adding payload to the back. If youre not gonna use it for towing, then go for it
 

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I am totally confused by this. The Mopar 2" kit upgrades the shocks from 2" to 2.5" bodies + longer travel, includes uprated springs, and has LCAs to correct for camber.

You might think you can do better with a non-OEM lift, but in no way is a leveling kit a superior solution except, perhaps for mall crawling.
I've installed several hundred lifts and mopar are my least favorite.

There are much better options and you listed a bunch of unnecessary things to get 37s on this. I've ran 37s on a few different jeeps and the JT/JL is the easiest to do it on.

The question was along the lines of not wasting money for one suspension setup then completely replacing it.

2 to 2.5 shock body. Unnecessary
Longer length shock. Maybe of use but not necessary. On a 2in lift with 37s some extra bump stop will be necessary so extensions wont limit travel enough to matter. You might get a little more down travel but the difference in fox's shock length between their 0-1 lift and their 1.5-2.5 lift length is negligible especially when you take half of the gain away with a bump stop.

Springs. Unless you are carrying weight over the capacity of the current ones you arent gaining anything. But even if you do decide later you need springs for added weight they are substantially cheaper bought separately from a good company. Think the last set of 2.5 coils I ordered were 250 bucks.

Lower control arms.... at a 2 inch lift...... 100% pointless. I have put so many 2.5 lifts on JKs and have yet to see one "need" them. Typically a factory caster setting is 8deg. I've never had one go under 6.5 after lifting it and most are still within spec at the lower lift heights like 2in.
After running larger lifts on jeeps for years I've found that the best angle is actually between 6 and 7 deg because you still need to account for the drive shaft input angle. Not a concern at lifts in the 2in range.

So a full mopar suspension lift might be nice but it is not 1k+ better.
 

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Let me build you a better lift than Chrysler parts
Things need to be done in this order.

Order a set of springs for the height you want.
400$ ish
Install and flex the system till you get rub.

Adjust bump stops.
$20

Order FOA shocks that fit in the compressed length. 150-160 for 2.5 bypass 125 for standard 2.5
$600 ish for far better shocks

Lower control arms if necessary
$250 for JKS IF you need them!!

Sway bar links. Extend your own. I usually cut the factory ones and sleeve an extension over them to dial it in perfect. 5 bucks


Saved ya a bunch of money and it's better than mopar.
 

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I would offer any who’s standing here saying that you NEED a big 96 way adjustable lift from lifts’r’us and 37’s to go off-roading (@Ole Cowboy ) , I would offer that you take your stock rig and go. Go out and hit all the gnarly trails you can think of or that one trail you always ride and keep a careful log of where and why you get hung and then cross that against what more chassis will do in that situation.

Where I go, most of the show stoppers aren’t touching down but a lack of forward momentum, the mud is too muddy or the rain soaked loamy skree is just too ugh I can’t even! There are a few big rocks in a creek that you can usually see but if you can’t it hurts to stub a toe griping blindly. For me there is really only one rock that hangs me up because I have to air down to get to it. For me stock tires and a modest lift as all I need to get just enough up.

If you want big tires for stance purposes that is a different thing entirely and one I feel is very separate from the will we get there question.

Now if FCA was interested is offering it as a inline option, why not take a page from the old school, the 1969 Camaro Z-28 when optioned with the 302 came with the cross ram intake in the trunk along side the chambered exhaust components. Sold as a factory option of dealer installed components. Dodge already did this trick with the demon so they understand the game. Factory standardize the control arms and offer the up-up-rated bits in a Jeep crate.
 

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Order FOA shocks that fit in the compressed length. 150-160 for 2.5 bypass 125 for standard 2.5
$600 ish for far better shocks
No way. I’ll take the Fox 2.5s that come in the Mopar kit over FOAs.

Here’s what one reviewer said about them. I’ll put my trust in Fox.

“F-O-A coilover shocks are cheap and low quality, however, as long as you know that going in and aren't expecting good performance or a long life out of them, then they may fit the bill. While we would never recommend these for any performance application, those looking for mock-up shocks or something cheap to hold them over until they get something better, F-O-A shocks could be a good choice.”
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