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  1. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    I understand your dilemma. Doing the towing math can become a quagmire of numbers. We haven't even discussed the drag coefficient of the rated square footage of the towed trailer frontal area. Just kidding...kinda. The WDH will redistribute the weight burden to the axles...it will not reduce...
  2. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    I like your term "comfortable tow"...a lot of people miss that point. If you push your weights to the max, you may be under what OEM says is safe, but is it a "comfortable tow" or a white-knuckle ride? ;-) I must defer to the experts on here who have experience with using a lifted vehicle to...
  3. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Very good advise Papa, back heavy or front heavy both effect tongue weight. Yes, 10% is always the number I've heard and used. I try not to go below 10%, had a buddy cross a rough bridge joint on an Interstate at 70mph pulling a trailer with a small excavator, improperly loaded rear heavy, the...
  4. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Sorry, I may have read this wrong but when you say; "without filling the tanks and using a WDH", are you saying not filling the tanks but "yes" using a WDH or not using a WDH? I personally would not tow a 4500# TT without a WDH with a Gladiator. You could get by without one on a ton truck...
  5. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    WDH will decrease your tongue weight. But part of it is shifted to the steer axle which still has to be calculated in the GVWR. You also don't want to crank the tension too high that you have too little tongue weight, things can get squirrelly that way as well.
  6. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Excellent graphic Papa. A picture IS worth a thousand words.
  7. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Dealerships sometimes give advise slanted to selling something. The folks here are less biased, but none the less opinionated (a good thing). You still have to weed though the information and make the best decision you can. I assume you meant the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR is 5800#'s...
  8. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    I have not towed camper or boat with my three week old Gladiator yet, but I have towed many variations over the last, close to 50 years. I haven't seen the exact specs on the weight limits of the Overland but the 3.6 is plenty of engine for 4600#s and I am assuming with the 6000# rating that...
  9. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Papa, you are quite correct. I am an IT Director and I don't connect any mission critical devices via wireless of any kind...and trailer brakes are definitely a mission critical device. However, the Curt Echo Mobile device does not require Bluetooth connectivity to function. They have a...
  10. 2020 Gladiator Towing (Overland)

    Just got my JT Sport S with Max Tow two weeks ago, but towed a 3200# camper for over two years with a 2018 JLUS using an Curt Echo Mobile controller. I found zip tie was not necessary. Both the Echo to truck and trailer to Echo connection was secured by the tab on the devices and I never had...
  11. ARE Gladiator Shell Pre Order

    Just took delivery on my JT Sport S Max Tow this past Friday. Traded my 2018 JL (my those things hold their value). I just received a quote on a bare-bones ARE Classic CX for $2,030.96, seems high compared with other prices from this thread. My question is...my JT has a Premium Soft Top. I...
  12. Moving from JL Forum to JT Forum

    I've been lurking on the JL forum for almost two years (posted a little concerning trailering with JL). Since my 2018 JLUS purchase in Sept 18. I love the JL. But after JL purchase Jeep announce a JT. I purchased a 2900# dry Jayco Hummingbird 16MRB and the JLUS pulls it fine. I also have a...




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