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  1. Still No Pricing

    Dang, it took sooo long!
  2. Still No Pricing

    Your favorite flavor!
  3. Discussion: 2020 Ford Raptor or 2020 Jeep Gladiator

    I'd recommend you go with the 2020 Ford Raptor, with its impending all new 7.3L monster V8, churning out nearly infinite HP and torque! ;) This is why Raptors have recently gone from always having a second sticker “market adjusted price,” to now literally plummeting in price, as it’s little...
  4. Still No Pricing

    FCA is excellent at marketing! They are just trying to build a little suspense here, guys. Admit it, we're all stoked and waiting with baited breath to pay whatever amount FCA demands for that Jeep Gladiator Rubicon diesel! Our wallets are literally bursting at the seams and flush with cash...
  5. Still No Pricing

    I thought FCA said pricing would be available by April or May?
  6. Mark Allen shows off plywood at media show ;)

    That's good for a $1500 ticket: unsecured load. I only wish the fine was $10,000.
  7. Gladiator length

    I'm extremely disappointed with the enormous length of the Gladiator. Come on now, guys, how many of us Jeep fanatics are actually going to carry motorcycles in the bed, or 4x8 sheets of plywood, with the gate half-way down? Sure, it might look good in a Jeep marketing photo op for your fantasy...
  8. Gladiator takes Chicago!

    Color is a personal opinion thing, for sure. It’s just that grey is, oh, so boring. Reminds me of grey navy battleships. Eye of the beholder thing. YMMV.
  9. Gladiator takes Chicago!

    The pumpkin is killer! The grey, yuk.
  10. Let’s talk Ecodiesel

    I’m also worried whether the diesel will come to fruition, or not. Only time will tell, but as the FCA exec stated at the 2018 LA Auto show, the diesel will not arrive until CY2020. This timeframe extends out to possibly as late as Dec 31, 2020. Boys, that’s darn near 2 years from now, and a...
  11. Ecodiesel Gladiator Spotted in MI showing diesel and DEF fillers

    Joe, you're missing the point. Why do you think ppl don't give a rip how expensive the diesel Gladiator costs, the fact that it will tow less than the gas motor, and ongoing maintenance costs of the Ecodiesel may be higher?Truth be told, we are hellbent on buying he diesel Gladiator, and we will...
  12. I want this, but not going to wait longer!

    Yes, I suppose a small relatively inexpensive part can break in ANY car, and cause a huge repair bill. My Mustang had s $35 nylon gear tooth in the timing chain drive gear fail, and it caused the timing belt to slip several cogs, causing the top of the pistons to hit the valves, essentially...
  13. I want this, but not going to wait longer!

    Sorry for your bad diesel experience, but hey, anyone can have a bad experience, with any product, even a Rolex watch can fail. Stuff happens. However, I have owned many diesel pickup trucks in my business, and have never had any issues or problems. I expect when I drive away with my beautiful...
  14. Do you think the shops that do truck conversions are pissed?

    If you’re talking about who I think you are talking about, they will be just fine.
  15. Not for tall people

    Ppl who are 6’6” and taller make up well under 1% of the US population. Is FCA supposed to design a vehicle for this tiny niche segment of the market? My best advice to that guy is to consider purchasing an older Mercedes G-wagon (to try to keep in the same price range of a new Jeep), or maybe a...
  16. I want this, but not going to wait longer!

    Not kidding. A diesel engine in a Wrangler or Gladiator is well worth an extra $20,000 to me. Been waiting 10 years for a diesel Jeep Wrangler, so I’ve saved up, and ready to pay with cash.
  17. I want this, but not going to wait longer!

    What?! 6 months?! The FCA executive stated at the recent 2018 LA Auto Show the diesel will not be avaiable until CY2020. As we all know, this means the last second of the last day in Dec 2020, and that’s assuming there are zero glitches (read that, EPA and diesel emissions tests), and zero...
  18. I want this, but not going to wait longer!

    My plan is to wait up to 6 more years for a diesel to arrive in either the JL or the Gladiator, and I am willing to spend up to $20,000 additional over a gas motor for the priviledge of acquirung a diesel motor in a Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator. However, if the wait expands to significantly more...
  19. Do you think the $800 million fine will change or delay the Eco diesel further?

    My guess is before it's all over, this EPA situation will convince FCA to cancel the Wrangler diesel before we ever get a chance to ever see it on a showroom floor. Can't say as I blame FCA, either. Sigh...:(




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