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Well... it’s even less now

That’s pathetic, right? I mean, the prior model year had a major issue and it appears they’ve done nothing about it. Now they are limiting the cars capabilities to compensate for the issue. At least, that’s how it looks to me. I’m curious how the torque reduction reduces towing capacity...

I just posted about a stop sale order.... guess I should have read this first. Boy did I dodge a bullet. Seriously!!!

I’m still poking around the Gladiator. Found a rubicon manual local. Was told by the dealer that there’s a stop order on all manual gladiators and wranglers. Found this...

Yeah.... that's bananas. I am around $380 / 6 months on the 4runner.

I know... sorry :(

Just to provide an update on my situation. I decided not to get the Jeep, even though I think I negotiated a pretty good deal ($33,500 OTD for 6spd Willys sport with hardtop, bedliner, tow package, aux and smokers groups, and satellite - would have been $28k post trade). It's not because of...

I did. Thank you!

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Thanks. So you can add 500 lbs of towing capacity to the Willys by gearing up?

What JTR model do you have?

Maybe I’ll find the answer as I keep reading through these trailer related posts, but why is the rubicon 6spd towing capacity 500 lbs more than the Willys sport I’m looking at?

Thanks! Super stoked!

Yes. I’ve read a lot of towing threads. Is there something in particular you are referring to?

Thanks. Yeah the tongue weight bothers me the most - or the limited payload that is. I am really getting a mixed bag of responses/opinions, which I really appreciate. Maybe if I get the truck, give it a shot and it's obviously not going to work, then I can switch up on campers. An Aliner...

Thank you!

You’re planning to pull that camper? That’s a very similar setup to what im planning.

Got it. Thanks. Just seems to me that if the towing capacity is higher it should do a better job towing. I’m probably looking at it wrong, or missing something important, but who knows. Great responses. Thanks!

Understood, but the tow capacity is less. Isn’t the entire drivetrain a factor of the towing capacity? If it’s 4000, regardless of what tranny, it’s still higher.

Much appreciated.