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Picking up a diesel rubicon. It has the normal bumper NOT steel so saves some weight there. For what its worth the payload sticker is 1000#. May help someone as when shopping I couldn't find much actual info other than 1 example that was 900# biggest thing I can see would likely be he heavy...

I'm still not clear on if HD axels = HD wide track axles though. Not sure they are all the same track width. I thought all gladiators technically had "HD" axels. Only Max Tow, Mojave, and Rubicon got the widetrack version. Diesel gets a little more vague but not sure it would be any different.

Does yours have the "tow package" option

Insurance. And sleep easy. Stuff is replaceable. People and family aren't. Stay and travel safe. Be smart and alert.

Fundamentally I think it's just priced a bit too premium for what you are actually getting. I'm on the fence likely will buy anyway. If it was 5K or so less across the board MSRP I don't think I'd blink. The price of a loaded out Rubicon, Mojave, Diesel whatever buys you a LOT of vehicle...

My only question... when can I have this in a Gladiator? That is all.