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lol, literally in that same boat right now. Purchasing a JT + another vehicle for the wife, just how the moons happened to align. It's like herding cats especially with the car market being what it is. We're not even considering 3rd row options right now, hasn't even come up in conversation...

That's not the OP, but I love the Tacoma, especially the TRD Pro, I just feel like two things. Everyone says it's still everything it always was but that also means "dated" - definitively, in 2021, unless you're specifically a Taco guy. It just seems weird to me to spend $35-40k+ on a brand...

So, if you want the JT and want someone to justify it to you, in Europe (and really, almost anywhere in the world) they'd laugh at the Gladiator not being fit for 3 children. Rest of the world would consider the Ford Focus or something similar the perfect family car for that affair. Once you...

And you read a single post, responded to part of it and ignored the context of the rest of the thread. Am I the troll or the trollee here, really?

It's not really bragging it's, "I know a Rubicon is over-engineered money poured down the drain" for literally every application other than extreme rock crawling. The experience isn't "I'm the best off-roader in the world" it's "After 30+ years pretty much living on these roads I laugh at...

What part of "I'm buying a Gladiator" is contradicting ANYTHING that you're saying or me not listening? Starting to understand why this is maddening? :D Frankly now that I've been to the dealer, I'm seeing that any way I price it = a Rubicon. it's over before it even started. I will say this...

I definitely have not ignored your main point. I'm telling you "I hear what you're saying, I do the math on the fuel, it's fine you don't" but you're still saying maintence is a lot of money and still haven't given me even a ballpark dollar amount of yearly costs sans repair. I think you're the...

Can we get this thread locked maybe? Clearly the question has already been answered and the interest is in piling on or just wanting to have your voice heard about the Ranger. Doesn't help when I say 14 times, "Leaning towards Gladiator" and "confirmed Glatiator" to still have pages of people...

If we're going to seriously debate the Frontier/Titan, it's not a serious contender in today's market. It does nothing the best and does almost everything worse than every other vehicle in its class. All that for $40,000 starting for a crew cab Titan. Toyota decided to build American trucks in...

This isn't really anything new, the invention of widespread urea filters was the end of diesel being a known and economical commodity. Fact of the matter is diesel exhaust is toxic to human health. I have a family full of FDNY vets and some are apart of the many of that generation who are dying...

Good insight. I haven't owned a proper off-road vehicle or truck in over a decade so I'm super unplugged from new-fangled diesel. To me there are magic parts everywhere that screw things up and this thread just plays into that fear.

Is that true though? Here's my fear: 1) Diesel not on Mojave 2) V8 outshines diesel for all but the very few, making Jeep drop it in a few years 3) Very small overall diesel market, very little aftermarket attention 4) Tiny things like this thread always being a problem

Disappointment is different than regret. If you had to go back to signing on the dotted line would you still go diesel in light of your part problems?

A little advice for those of you whom have cars they want to trade in. If you can sell your car privately now and bank it, I would definitely do that. I'm even considering private selling my wife's Escape whose lease is up in September, I can get like $3-4k over what I owe on the note! Insane...

I don't want to derail this thread but overall is this a common occurrence with you diesel guys? Wanting to mod something and finding out the gas burner parts won't work? I'm kind of walking into a purchase guessing that this won't be much of an issue in the long term but definitely looking for...

I go cow hunting all of the time, pisses off the ranchers though.

Maybe this is where we point out that Consumer Reports gave the Gladiator the highest marks on reliability over literally any other vehicle.

But you haven't answered my question, because clearly I'm also doing the calculation on cost of ownership. For whatever reason, I don't need the new hotness and hold on to trucks and cars for a very long time so I do my math on a minimum 10-year basis. If I go to the low-end of my potential...

There's foot trails and camp sites all over the property, all of which I've traversed extensively over the course of the past 30 years. But the ATV and 4X4s on those trails, which I can do for free, at will, would make me feel jealous so I'd rather take an offroad capable 4x4 where I can hang...

Oh dear God, hate to contradict myself but: That's just clicking the Tremor package on the XLT. Go fuck yourself Ford and compare on to the Rubi.