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i also called a couple of dealers today and it is hard to believe how clueless their employees are.

That is a minuscule discount on a vehicle that is $17K over the base price!

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! I will eventually buy a well equipped Rubicon with money in hand. I didn't get in a position to do that by giving away money. I may not get the special edition model which honestly is not exactly configured the way I would order one. There will be dealers that will negotiate...

Markup????!!!!

Thanks for this useful information! This is what most of us are here for.

AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS DOES THE WINDOW STICKER GET APPLIED? POST PRODUCTION LINE???

This is how it probably works: Gov. procurement : We would like to purchase 7,000 top of the line Jt Rubicons. Please inform me of the individual cost as well as a total for all 7,000 combined. FCA: The consumer price per unit is $55K. Your total cost is 1.2 billion. Included in that price...

They work exactly the same way except they are different.

Not to mention that pricing has even been announced!

Price gouging!

Pricing will be announced as soon as it is OFFICIALLY listed.

Just remember, it will eventually boil down to supply and demand. If dealers can't keep them on the lot at MRSP why would they discount them? That being said, have the discipline to not pay MRSP and watch what happens. There is a dealer near me who initially was selling JL Rubicons at slightly...

i have spent more years than I would like to admit as a manufacturing manager at a well known pharmaceutical company. Regardless of what is being manufactured, there is a system in place that captures every penny that is required to produce the finished product. I feel very strongly that the...

I would never argue that a Harley belongs at the top of a Quality list. If I were doing very long trips it would be hard to equal the reliability of a Honda. However, I don't want a Honda.There aren't too many bad choices that I can think of when it comes to bikes. And although I am partial to...

The silence is deafening.

Yes.....Just like Red Sox vs. Yankees! Indians are truly great bikes Even though they lack product year stamina!:devil:

Not a fanboy of anyone or anything. Nor a Harley snob. However, Like it or not, there are Iconic products and brands and in my opinion, Harley Davidson, Smith & Wesson and Jeep are three of them. (A blind person can tell you they are listening to a Harley) The fact that they are made in the...

I believe that Harley Davidson is another example of the point you made. I have several Harley's and always will but in all honesty, if I were going to do a coast to coast trip there are more reliable choices1