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Looks like this would be an option if you do Not plan on installing winch https://www.rockhard4x4.com/product_p/rh-90249.htm

Do they not sell one without a winch space? If they don’t list it...reach out to them via e-mail and tell them what you want. They are a fabrication shop and I bet they can fix you up with what you need.

Well I had an 02 TJ prior to my Gladiator...used RockHard for a rear bumper and tire swing/basket combo. Since ordering this bumper I have a rear bumper on order from them. I find their quality to be good, they are very busy but very accessible to talk with or to email with. I don’t think I...

Let me see what I have....this does have a built in skid that goes up underneath the front end replacing the rubicon skid with a better skid...I will post some pics but I am afraid I do not have any showing the skid right now. By the way I just ordered the rear bumper from RockHard as well.

This bumper weighs less than 40 lbs.....

This is my HardRock 4x4 aluminum mid width bumper

Okay I am a bit older than you all...turned 20 in 1980.....I got to actually see Van Halen opening to Black Sabbath on their first real tour....and yes I saw David Lee Roth actually jump over his mike stand while singing Jump......I was in my teens during the 70s...damn that seems so long...

Where in LA?

Still available...located in Port Neches

Wow...you said it was on order on 10/7....is it taking that long to get it?

Did you get your bumper? If so how do like it? Any pics?

Thanks for all the comments....very much afraid this is going to be a ‘he-said’....’he-said’ situation with no clear responsible party...however, the driver that hit me is claiming it was 100% my fault and now he is injured, so he says. As far as diminished value ....once this all clears I will...

The rails did not even move or dent....

I have to tell you I am a fan of the rubicon rails. I know when properly attached it sure did save me from lots of damage this weekend when someone clipped me as I was making left hand turn....pics are my damage and the car that hit me....

Gotcha...so what I have been reading is that there has to be a clear at fault driver. The road was a private road on the perimeter of a mall parking lot.....please no jokes about mall crawling, it's dangerous out there....anyway, the police did show up but did not file report or place...

I really have no idea about cell phone, but I am guessing that he did not see me as I am not sure he even slowed down

Explain this further, please.....

Thanks...and yes the Jeep faired well and no one hurt....