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by the chatter - seems folks are keen to purchase off the lot...I'll be waiting to order a factory build.

Just got this from my dealer - has some good info (but still lacking option pricing).

lets hope they plug it all into the builder soon!

Be good to see the order guide once released with retail vs. dealer pricing. Don't forget that factory orders are easier for the dealer as well (allotments not effected, clawback, and a lot of other crap I don't really understand). I did not push too much on the JL pricing. I too am 100%...

WA - Ferry to Vancouver (was a good idea) There is NO ferry from WA State to Vancouver...INTO Victoria, YES, and then you would need to take another to get off the island (unless there is a kick ass snorkel involved) but not the Mainland...just drive on up the I-5. WA State ferry - Anacortes...

Hey, that is my wish as well....gator diesel. So we'll see what late availability means this time around...I only had to wait 5 months after initial order for our 2.0 JL

Too bad you had to look for someone with the keys - there were 2 in @ the Toronto show that were always open, plus a couple on 'trophy' display.

EXACTLY

I was there also and sat in about 40 vehicles. Only the JT felt 'solid' everything else felt cheap and plastically. I also drive a 2013 Mitsu Outlander, which I love. 100k kms, and 0 issues, and even the new model of that was a POS to be honest. ... waiting for diesel gator, so maybe next...