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  1. warranty

    Was it that much to have it shipped? How far away was the dealer? Not a nice weekend get-away to go on a road trip?
  2. warranty

    C'mon ... you have forgotten more stuff than most people around here have ever learned. "Why in the world the'd (another dealer) buy it ....." Because, as you know, they have this vehicle of questionable origin but after playing 3 card monte with a customer several times, the customer thinks...
  3. warranty

    Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when...
  4. warranty

    Just thinking out loud here, but is there a difference between a "demo" and what is more likely the case, a loaner vehicle. With that many miles, it sounds like a loaner to me (unless it was a perk thing for one of the managers to drive).
  5. warranty

    If it's registered, it should show up on the CarFax report along with the date.
  6. warranty

    Thank you for the clarification. As I suspected, the manufacturer now is beginning the warranty period on the in service date which can either be when purchased or when used as a company vehicle or a dealer demo. Buyers need to keep that in mind when purchasing a vehicle in those situations and...
  7. Towing/transmission question (don't laugh please)

    By the way, thanks to all for the comments on how to "see" what gear I am in with the automatic trans. Honestly, I would still probably be looking around to see where that magic button/icon is to display it. Maybe for me it's worthless information (I tow my boat home from the marina maybe 3 or 4...
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    For warranty purposes, companies use something called the "in service date." Normally buying a new car on the lot or ordering one, the date is pretty simple; the date when you drive it off the lot. But now warranties are different than in the past. I bought a demo at least once in the past and...
  9. 392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

    At least here in FL, diesel is usually midway between premium and regular, often at the price of the 89 octane stuff. I have seen it at times down to about the same price as regular but it typically is 20 to 30 cents higher. I know I'm a bit slow, but I just saw several comments here on other...
  10. 392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

    For a 6 figure amount, I could just skip the work myself and pay someone to go on all the trails with with their own Jeep and a video cam and invite friends over to watch the videos with a couple cases of beer. We could all go "oooohhhh and ahhhhhh" over the tough trails.
  11. 392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

    I don't get the "need", other than of course profits, to be throwing out 75k, 100k, 125k for a V8 Jeep. I can buy a Max Tow for like 45k with a 3.6. So what is the difference in cost from a 3.6 to a 5.7? Can the same transfer case be used? Would the current Dana 44's work? I'm sure the ZF...
  12. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    If I may ask, what is Lexus a "heavy contender" for? If I am missing something or not aware of some Lexus products comparable to a Gladiator Rubicon or Mojave, please inform me (and some others here too). Are there models you can actually off-road in? Lift kits, lockers, winches, etc.??????
  13. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    A "lifetime warranty", is simply another method for the dealership to generate more revenue. It's that simple. Remember, all of the extras or add-ons that a dealer sells is to make money, not lose it. Yes, it's possible that in some individual cases they lose money, but as a whole, they are...
  14. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    You are correct. When I moved here from NJ over 30 years ago, I found it was a lot different buying a car here. Part of it dates back many years ago when you had to pay effectively a penalty ($500 or more) to get a tag on a vehicle that came from out of state (it finally ended when it was ruled...
  15. Dealership Service Questionable?

    I apologize if I went off topic with the BMW service. A comment was also made about Lexus service. Yes, it got off topic. But there does tend to be a lot of problems with Jeep dealership service. Let's just say that some brands appear to have better service.
  16. Dealership Service Questionable?

    Dependability good. Depreciation, yes. That is why this time, I talked wife into getting one that had been leased. The dealer had hundreds. That's how they work, at least here. They would much prefer to lease new vehicles than sell them. That pretty much guarantees, unless the person buys it at...
  17. Dealership Service Questionable?

    Same here with my wife's BMW. Flawless service, clean car, vacuumed and always on time. That's the reason we purchased her most recent one ('21) at the same dealership (Pembroke Pines FL). Even the service advisor is great (she has been with the company for 25 years) goes through all of the...
  18. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    You are certainly correct on the definition of warranty. These terms (warranty, service contract, guarantee) often get interchanged and technically used improperly. Even the dealerships use these terms incorrectly when they say that they can extend the warranty through a third party company.
  19. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    Interesting about these dealer type of extended warranties. To the point, we have a mega-dealer here in South Florida with a dozen or more dealerships of various brands (Rick Case). They advertise that they double the manufacturers warranty (powertrain). When advertising Hyundai, they even...
  20. 6 Months In… Getting some poor “support”

    Yes, at least in my area also, the dealers have the Express Oil Change thing. I have been turned away once or twice and asked to come the next day by coming in too "late" around 3PM when they are supposed to be open until 5PM. But other than that, oil changes are pretty quick (if they are...




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