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  1. 2021 Bronco

    Agreed. I’m more of an NA guy myself, but it’s going the way of the do do. But your statement is my biggest gripe of the Gladiator. It was your only option if you want a Wrangler with a bed. If Toyota made a vehicle with removable doors and top, I wouldn’t even consider a Jeep. The reason...
  2. 2021 Bronco

    Agreed. I’m more of an NA guy myself, but it’s going the way of the dodo. But your statement is my biggest gripe of the Gladiator. It was your only option if you want a Wrangler with a bed. If Toyota made a vehicle with removable doors and top, I wouldn’t even consider a Jeep. The reason...
  3. 2021 Bronco

    You seem very hung up on a V8. Do you know your gladiator has a V6? A gutless V6 at that.
  4. 2021 Bronco

    I’m pumped for the Bronco! It’s about time Jeep has some competition. Definitely coming right for the Wrangler and it will have an impact. I know lots of Jeep fans excited for the Bronco. My generation is not brand loyal. Jeep has done nothing to keep my business. Maybe this will give Jeep a...
  5. 17’s vs 20’s

    20's look fru fru to me, but it's your rig! If you like it, go for it! Do they still make spinners in that size?
  6. Dealer Scams

    Strong willed? Lol, I guess it’s just being educated on where I spend my money? For me it’s pretty easy to resist an inflated price by several thousands of dollars. We’re not talking about paying too much for a candy bar. That’s pretty basic self control, or maybe not for a typical American...
  7. Dealer Scams

    What is there to “get away” with? You live in a capitalistic society. Dealership is in it to make money. If by get away with it, you mean the consumer is willing to pay for it, I agree. The only thing they’re getting away with is whatever the market is willing to bear. There is one dealer by me...
  8. Dealer Scams

    Little shady, but doesn't bother me that much. ADM's are on a lot of vehicles. I remember when the GT350 first came out...YIKES! I don't think it's a big deal (I don't work at a dealership or anything). It's a free market. If they can get it, good for them. If the consumer is too stupid to...
  9. Going to Arbitration for buy back

    OP - sorry to hear. Unfortunately I’ve never heard of an auto or motorcycle manufacturer stand by their customer. I’m assuming the replacement wouldn’t be another Jeep. Although I was surprised to see other posters replace theirs. Suppose their isn’t any competition if you’re looking for a...
  10. Sport S Prices Rising

    In the very example you provide you specifically state the dealer fees can’t exceed $75 in NY. So the dealer can charge $0. They can charge $.99, $1.50...They CAN NOT however change the sales tax rate. I don’t disagree they’ll just move it to another bucket. Just bough a new car and that’s what...
  11. Sport S Prices Rising

    I disagree on the dealer fees. Those ARE negotiable and something the dealer controls. IMO, on forums, OTD pricing should be price less government fees (tax and license). The dealer has zero control over government fees.
  12. Sport S Prices Rising

    What’s your tax rate? Where I live it’s 10%. Some areas are none to very minimal. This is the very reason I don’t think OTD pricing should include taxes as that can vary significantly by state.
  13. 4 BFG KO2 35x12.5x17 (315 70 r17) with Black Rhino Warlords

    ....which doesn’t show on mobile browser...
  14. 2021 Gladiator High Altitude Thoughts?

    You’re shocked to see a company do things to see if they can sell more of their product? Damn those businesses for trying to be profitable!! Those idiots! I’m appalled!
  15. 4 BFG KO2 35x12.5x17 (315 70 r17) with Black Rhino Warlords

    35” wheels?! That’s massive. These going on a monster truck?
  16. Great used Gladiator

    So your aunt bought it?
  17. Passed up $8700 off a Launch Edition

    The “cash” buyers do realize this is the dealer’s LEAST preferred method of paying, right? It’s not the 60’s and 70’s anymore folks. Dealers much prefer you finance as they get kickbacks. You’re actually better off financing as it’ll get you a lower price. Then you can take the cash and pay off...
  18. Jeep Gladiator Mojave vs. Ford Raptor

    I stopped listening at the very beginning when she was trying to compare the power between them. That was laughable.
  19. Bestop won't honor their rebate

    Except that's exactly what you did. You put in very minimal effort (email and not even giving it anywhere near 24 hours is basically no effort) to look into this and then start a thread bashing a company. I have no affiliation, but people whining about customer service when they do nothing to...
  20. 2020 Gladiator Mojave Window Sticker and Hands-On Comparison vs Rubicon

    My JK is a ‘13 which comes with the 3.6. They started the 3.6 in ‘12 on the Wrangler. The 3.6 is also a minivan engine... Agreed on the V8. Still NA and doesn’t have all the complexity of small displacement turbo engines. Would get about the same gas mileage as well. I do like the appearance...




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