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But you know they are not . . . right ? Assuming the RAM is a quad (~140") and the JT ~137" - scary close right ? Just add a lot more "bulk" and weight . I do wish the 2021 JT version gets an uptick in hp, more like that RAM -- 305hp with the added 9ftlbs. of torque .

I'll have to take a look . . . the name sounds Sinister . . . I know that's "ridiculous" but I've had sillier thoughts :headbang: ;) .

What are ya gonna do ? These manufacturers will yes you to death only to get your foot in the door and squeeze a commitment out of your wallet - even if it means a "pre-order" . . . I liken it to sorta like "pledging" your dollars to Public Radio Stations during their bi-annual "Fund Drives" ...

Why ? Why limit your storage space like that ! If it's just for esthetics, that's one thing, but for practical, not so much . jmo .

Oh NO . . . another Pacifica Owner gone astray ! A newbie ta-boot ! Please no, do we have more room for silliness ? Just asking, not judging . :facepalm: :giggle: . . . :LOL: :CWL: :clap: . . . ;) . Go Steph, it's your turn . . . :like: :CWL: . Hey be happy for me . . . I'm in a...

Disappointing A.R.E. is "taking their sweet-time on this, but they are, now, part of a bigger Conglomerate, so their "money" perhaps gets "divied-up" differently for R&D . . . ? I'm hoping SnugTop comes out with a short 5ft version of their OutBack CAP with the 2 swing out doors ! Someone...

I was going to make the same suggestion till I saw your post . . . may I add there are a limited # for the JT, but for NOW, ARTEC does have them - both front (should be same for JL) and the rears (not like the JL) . . . other companies, for instance CBI (big fans of the Taco!) have them for the...

Oh my gosh, you sold it WITH your CD's inside ? You must of really had a bad case of heartburn the next morning !? I had similar misgivings when I took my 331/3 record collection - all the (Now) "Classic" R&R LP's from the '70's, yea, the Stones, but also CSN (+ &Y), Beatles, S&G., Hendrix...

I'd "like" this, but you have way to many more "likes" than I could ever build up . . . even it I went out of my way to do endless silly postings just of the "clicks" ! :LOL::like:

ABSOUTELY . . . but I'm guessing it is not in the jeep budget for a set of Go Pro Camera's and the attaching arms for such Videography . . . beyond their scope of "imagination ! ? VERY DISAPPOINTING INDEED, and yes a total SHAME (SHAM?) that JEEP, once again, has failed the Faithful ! I'd be...

GREAT . . . I'll keep my hopes up that by the time the Expo is over and things have calmed, you;ll be able to download a bunch of stuff ! ?

YES, THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT SHOTS SO FAR ! WONDERING IF YOU COULD CHECK ON A JLU ITEM - URSA MINOR RTT CAMPER SHELL FOR THE JLU (Not the JKU) . This is the 1st showing, supposedly, by the Company, revealing the NEW JLU version of their PopUp RTT, there at the Expo . PLEASE find and...

In the era of Quieter is Nicer, these Carpetings should come standard with the BACKING-Side made of Sound-Deadening Material . . . if they don't already ?

Yes, if you have "patience" to deal with the heavier Galvanized skeleton-tubes ! I feel also that the method of attaching to the side rails a bit "iffy" !? Also, have they made one that FITs the JT yet ? I really like my 9'x 8' x 6' kodiak ground tent, but for me it IS a real Chore to...

Well, Steph, I looked and looked, and touched and even rubbed . . . and I just don't like it ! Why ? You had to ask ! It's just to "UNIFORM" to "COOKIE-CUTTER" . Every inch of it looks identical to every other inch, not at all "cool" and unique like the Dark Saddle with etched...

Hmm . . . not to beat a dead horse, but I've read the "Current version" 1st thread post and IT reads just fine ! so ? like I said, time to go get analyzed, not ANALprobed, :LOL:

That's amusing . . . funny cause just this year MY Lithia Dealer has decided to highlight their Homepage with, "Welcome to AREA 51"! Think their mad they were not one of the luck 407 dealerships that got a J.D.Power Award of "excellence"! :headbang: :swear: !

Jeep just screwed up with the hp thing IMO - should of tuned the 3.6 From the Beginning with the G.C.'s 295 hp OR the RAM DT's 305 hp . Then it'd be fully warranted from the factory . That Extra 400+ pounds and the BrickHouse Front end is no MPG Friend . I know, I know I keep mentioning it...

Well, someone's come out and agrees with my assessment - of course I was using my 2016 G.C. (power to weight ratio compared to "projected" JT's - which as it turns out is Heavier & Less wind resistant ! I have not test driven the JT yet because I'm waiting (anyway) for the Sport S version, and...

It's only been half an hour . . . I've posted Gladiator Photos from MY local Dealer . . . and the blood pressure is back to acceptable ! Thanks for caring . But it's more the other nit-picker got my goat . . . punctuation ? But apparently rehab is needed to figure out if I'm hallucinating...