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It just pisses me off that the people in charge of government EPA/diesel stuff fly around in private jets and planes around the world to go to a meeting to tell us what types of vehicles they will allow us to drive. I'd love to have someone figure out or at least speculate the following...

It's going to be a disaster....not worth the wait. I've been waiting for years for them to get their diesel figured out. I'm going to get the gasser and by the time I'm ready to trade it in after 3-5 years maybe they'll have a functional diesel to order.

Yes, I love looking at my 4Runner! I can't wait to love looking at a new Gladiator next to it!

Wow. What types of speeds are you doing on the hwy?

undercarriage parts start rusting and falling off so you drop significant weight.

So....what then is the MPG difference between each model because of the gearing with regular mixed driving? (stock, no extra lifts or tire sizes) Rubicon Overland Sport

What $ are you getting it for? If it's really a great deal and you pass on it I'll be there Monday to take your place!

Saw a Rubicon Gator soft-top this morning at a dealership. They weren't open yet but I stopped to take a peek. They had it parked right up front showing it off. It had the saddle brown interior which matched PERFECTLY!!! I saw it in the shade and the sun! It is definitely WAY better in...

I'm going to research this if I remember to do so.... but what is a Fumoto valve?

Where are you coming up with 20K difference? Loaded Rubicons are at least mid $50's.

I find it interesting I just heard a commercial saying "employee pricing"- I believe it includes the Gladiator which I thought they would never "discount". Funny how it works out when people get "intentionally greedy"

post some pics dammit

I still kinda like the look of the spare tire on the side. What truck was it that had the spare tire on the front? Was that an old RAM or GMC?

That's pretty much what it's like here. One day I noticed I was driving and I was surrounded by about 20 white and gray cars for 100 miles! I also noticed going the opposite direction it was very similar. White and Gray. Nothing else but my Orange 4Runner

Could you measure the distance between the driver side door handle to the center of the driver side rear wheel?

it's not just the engine, it's the gas lines, injectors, seals, fuel pump, etc....

Sandbags are nice to have in case you need to bust one open to spread out for a little extra traction- cherry grit stuff works the best!

They ALWAYS have ethanol in our gasoline unless they have a separate pump that say ethanol free. Ethanol is the devil. It fucks everything up. My mechanics NEVER use it in ANYTHING. I don't even use it in my lawn mower.

Don't forget to use "Ramming speed" like the Deathmobile from Animal House in case you encounter a huge snowdrift!