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Maybe, but that's 2 out of 2 engines that I've had with the same characteristics. We don't need to focus so much on the blown engine. Simply the fact that they both have a tendency to run hot and will overheat if I don't pay attention on mountain passes. The fact that '3.6 overheating/running...

It's on the way to overheating. That's why there's a gauge with varying levels and marks to watch. lol it's not just a light that pops up when it's overheated. It all means something, so you can prevent a problem before it's a problem, otherwise it wouldn't be there.

Appreciate it, it's water under the bridge. "Without repair", I think that might need to be rephrased but I get what you're saying. I still don't like how I can't just hand the keys over to someone and let them drive for me. My wife isn't mechanical or technical so she can't drive the Jeep...

At 235 your temp gauge will be increasing between 1/2 and 3/4. Stellantis' mechanical engineers had reasonable concern, when specifically defining these temperature limits. Climbing Echo Summit (I50) or Donner Summit (I80), or climbing out of the salt flats between Utah and Nevada, I let off at...

You seemed to suggest that 270 was acceptable. 250 isn't even acceptable. 230 is riding the line of acceptable, as even in your screenshot it's the "peak" of what MEI suggested operating temp. Both of my 3.6 motors in the wrangler would run the temp up as high as you let it.. well beyond 230. A...

Well it lasted 140k which is about the lifespan of an engine according to the manufacturer. I just think the power level and drivability (feeling obligated to watch temps climb) for what it is, sucks. It's a big trade-off for a very capable offroad vehicle, IMO. The new engine performs the same...

Not sure if you're asking me these questions or someone else. I'm not endorsing high RPM in a 3.6. The 3.6 runs hot with casual driving, that's why Stellantis made the coolant temp gauge stay in the center at temps in excess of 230 degrees. From 208-230, the temp gauge doesn't move much from...

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure AMW is located in CA and has CA smog legal swaps.

Yep and it's been over Donner many times before and after that incident. 6800 RPM is too close to redline to spend much time there. Where I'm from, it's not. That's the final price after all the additional items like hoses, mounts, fluids, etc... things that come with replacing a motor that...

Here's my 3.6 after a drive up Donner Pass. The 3.6 motor is a long way from being capable of running that hard all the time.

I totally agree with this. Google search result numbers isn't useful for saying one way or another. This thread will be a search result in both categories and it's not necessarily talking about anything specific. CDJR have discontinued a lot of good motors. The 4.0 in the TJ is one of the most...

lmao that's pretty good. I have a factory grille though and kept the engine stock for reliability and ease of repairs. Yeah reading about revving it to 6800 RPMs all the time to stay at peak power just sounds like a bad idea, at least a recipe for blown gaskets if not worse. Not to mention...

har har har if only there were stats. About 19,500 results for diesel About 54,200 results for 3.6L

A simple google search will return so many results on the 3.6 overheating issues. It's a frequent thread on the Wrangler Forums and CDJR actually designed their coolant temp gauge to stay center with coolant temps up to 230/235 degrees so people aren't alarmed when it's running hot. lol Mine...

IMO this is misleading.. because I know for a fact that a 3.6 in a mini-van with auto trans configuration and standard street tires will light up the tires. That's not as easy in a Wrangler configuration for whatever reason, that I don't care to dig deep enough into engine/drivetrain specifics...

My 3.6 will complain about cooling the entire trip. Coolant temp will see 235 degrees on the trail with ease, 245 degrees on any highway mountain pass while it bogs down. Temps will climb until self-destruction if I don't back off. :lipssealed: It's one of the biggest reasons I have my 3.6 for...

It was a gas engine but there's something sus about the time. Here's the article. 0-60 was faster than the rolling 5-60. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26990240/2020-jeep-gladiator-by-the-numbers/ Zero to 60 mph: 7.2 sec Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 7.6 sec No details on the context of the...

I know it seems contrary to what I'm saying but averages are important for the reason of "unicorn passes", as we call them at Sonoma Raceway. We've all worked hard to align the stars to break record passes. My buddy still owns the Audi 2.0T stage 3 world record (and he did it in a 4 door wagon)...

I didn't use motor trend's data. 0-60specs.com takes actual track time slips from controlled environments (NHRA tracks and other verified sources) and averages them. https://www.0-60specs.com/jeep/gladiator-0-60-times The average for a gasoline engine models is about 1-1.5 sec slower than for...

It's close to 1.5 seconds faster to 60mph which doesn't translate to much on flat ground until you're fully loaded and/or towing, where it's about 5 seconds faster to 60mph. Climbing hills is also where it's noticeable. The HP numbers aren't that much different between the two but the torque...