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Ok, she's on a truck FOR REAL this time. Should have it by today or tomorrow!

Manufacturer's max payload and max tow ratings are to legally protect the manufacturer if you do something stupid and cause an accident. They are NOT there to legally protect YOU if you do something stupid, regardless of whether what you're hauling or towing happens to be under or over the...

Can anyone decipher what is happening here: What is "Hold for Diversion"? And why was it set to go to my dealership, and now it's going to Argus?

Not to mention most of the ones willing to shell out $$$$!

Zing! You got me good! I meant you don't need to look only at the sticker and treat it as the only consideration. Common sense means that some loads under the limit could be unsafe when you drive like there's no load behind you. Likewise, loads over the number may be "safe" (maybe not "legally...

You can't just drop a bomb like that and walk away! Whhhaaaaaaaaaaa?

Ok, that post was maybe a little over the top. But seriously, our over-litigious society forces manufacturers to maintain these number low, because people don't drive with common sense any more.

I couldn't be more thrilled with the folks whining about payload/towing. Means I get to keep the fun for myself and it'll be more of a collector's item if/when I'm ready to sell. Diaper bags ain't that heavy, bro! And in the 16 years I've driven my LJ, I can count the times I've even looked at...

Mine's on a truck to the dealer! Here's hoping this weekend will be the one!

What @2Jeeps&PatriotX1 thinks the ecoDiesel payload capacity looks like with a winch, 2 dogs, a cooler, 12-pack of beers, and bag of ice in the bed... :CWL: Just giving you a hard time, man!

:surprised:I'm at KZS status, that's not listed on the process guide! WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON??!

Yep! Just got the window sticker an hour or so ago!

Finally moved from I to JB yesterday. How long did those of you with factory bedliners have to wait from JB to a K code?

LOL. No comment on torque/hp/mileage, not what I was claiming. Literally every vehicle I have ever owned has had the 4.0. While rear-main oil seal leaks every 200,000 are true, I have never had a major engine problem in my entire adult life. A couple water pumps at 250,000; catalytic converters...

I'd take the I-6 4.0L over the pentastar for reliability any day of the week and twice on Sunday. :angel: Yes, diesels will be more expensive to buy and maintain. And granted, I've never driven one with the fancy exhaust gizmos; you bet your britches I'll be getting the longest warranty they...

Wasn't an option on the July ordering sheet.

Motor1's article has the new wrangler-style badge. I thought we were getting the "3.0 D" based on the one TFLTruck saw in Feb! https://www.motor1.com/reviews/444696/2021-jeep-gladiator-ecodiesel-first-drive-review/

To be fair, those of us with EcoDiesels are a special case. We've been in D1 for well over a month now because they were waiting on the model year change and then the 3.0 production didn't start until last week. It's not like they asked "What does this button on my dash do?"

I had it too too! Also on the build sheet: GVW Rating - 6450# Sold Vehicle Special Scheduling Condition VII Easy Order

Crypto email; build sheet is done. Is everyone enjoying the play-by-play, or is this too much? @WMWHV are we racing? Illinois is closer to Toledo than Texas!